Baby dumped in trash can
Baby found dead in hotel trash can:
21-year-old Andrea Kline of Kalamazoo, Michigan was arrested for disposing the body of an infant into a hotel trash can. The child was born in a room at a Best Western. At this time it is unknown if the baby died at childbirth or not or if Ms. Kline is the baby’s mother. Thanks to reader Katie we have what we believe to be Andrea Kline’s MySpace. I matches the name, age, and location but it’s hard to compare pics between the MySpace and the mugshot.
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36 opinions for Baby dumped in trash can
Tim
Feb 7, 2007 at 12:10 pm
In her about me:
“I’m slightly crazy and extremly (sic) difficult to get to. I’m very shy and not easily impressed. I love Western”
So she says she’s crazy, and likes Western? Could that be Best Western? What’s that all about?!?!?!?
Jessica
Feb 7, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Here’s another article of her:
http://www.wnem.com/Global/story.asp?S=6055052
She left a comment on *Command Private Major* profile saying “I think I might go to Law School…are lawyers sexy?” Law school won’t help her in this situation!
Jeff
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:31 am
you people are really shallow and have absolutely no idea as to what is going on in this girl’s life besides what you read in the news. What a waste.
Kelly
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:42 am
She could have had an abortion or put the baby up for adoption. She did not have to hit the infant with a blunt object as it is alleged she did.
Jeff
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:53 am
Yes she very well could have. Unfortunately, there are people in America who grab a bag of cheetos, go online, and watch footage of saddam hussein being killed, or make witty little pokes about how “law school isn’t going to help her now!” or find interesting angles to incorporate into their news bulletin so that people can’t help but watch. “Look at the horrible baby-killer!” And then they go on to whatever it was they were doing, and when something like this happens to them, how funny they must find it. They’re not the ones shouting and pointing “murderer” anymore, are they?
This lack of any insight into situations like this only perpetuates the problem.
Katie
Feb 8, 2007 at 11:38 am
Okay, Jeff- I’ll give you that in many cases posted on this site it’s unfair to pass judgement, and that’s exactly what many of us, myself included, do. Even things like child abuse, rape, and murder. I’m very much a realist and incredibly empathetic, and I understand being overwhelmed and having things spiral out of control. I also know that a lot of cases of rape posted on here are unfair- and I am a woman, a very strong one. But- this case is just plain unjustifiable to me. I am very pro-abortion for THIS reason- because I think if you get rid of abortions you’ll have more and more babies left in trash cans all over the states. No matter what was going on in this girls life, she was educated enough (as any person who made it past I’d say 9th or 10th grade of high school) and should have enough decency and sense of responsibility to know she had options. I don’t even just mean abortion or adoption. It’s legal to drop a baby at a hospital or fire station, no questions asked. I have a beautiful 9 month old little boy, and I am empathetic to the fear and emotions surrounding motherhood- especially at a young age. I’m 21, and was to be a junior in college when I got pregnant- but if you can even begin to justify this to me, heck, I’ll send you a batch of freshly baked cookies. There are some things that can be to some extent justified by circumstance- even murder or child abuse- but this is not one of them.
As for something like this happening to someone who sits on here with a bag of cheetos, I’m sure someone will get in trouble with the law. I wouldn’t even say I’m immune to it. If you touch my son, I swear on my life I’ll have your head. But I’m proud to say that.
YouKnowThaDeal
Feb 8, 2007 at 12:17 pm
LOL this Jeff guy is on one.
Do you even know the girl cause it sounds like you do. If you do then of course you’d stick up for her if you don’t then stfu and realize if a bitch is caught throwing away a baby she is GUILTY as hell, no matter what.
Throwing away babies whether they’re dead or not is not an everyday thing, SORRYYYYY, the bitch is sick in the head and so are you for defending her, and the others.
Have a good one haha
Les
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:06 pm
She killed a baby! She hit it in the head and killed it, then threw it away! How does that make sense to you Jeff? How? If you have something bad happen to you are you going to go kill someone and say, “It’s okay, I was in a bad state of mind because something bad happened to me.”
Pregnancy isn’t even that bad. She had 9 months to think about what she was going to do. (I am also pro-abortion.)
Les
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Oh yeah, the above post doesn’t mention why the baby died. There’s the story (see link).
WATERTOWN, NY — A Western Michigan University student is in a New York jail, accused of killing her newborn.
Originally, prosecutors charged Andrea Kline with unlawful disposal of a body after she delivered a son sometime Monday in hotel in Watertown, New York and allegedly placed the infant in a dumpster.
Kline appeared in court on Wednesday where the charges were changed to second degree murder.
Court records show the baby died of hemorrhages caused by blunt force trauma to the head.
FULL STORY: http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6053672
Trench
Feb 8, 2007 at 8:56 pm
http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=94458
Jeff
Feb 8, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Hey Katie - I agree w/ everything you’re saying. She obviously has some kind of serious psychological problems to have not gotten an abortion and it baffles me why she would not have.
As for everything else . . . this kind of thing is far too complex for people to be going online and making quick judgments over a keyboard. Things just aren’t that simple. There are a quite a bit more details than what you see on the news. But then again, I’m just another person who is sick in the head. Hey, I might even be “on one.” God knows I would, concerning I don’t even know this disgrace to mankind, am I right?
YouKnowThaDeal
Feb 9, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Ha you are on one.
Why are you talkin shit about us coming on here and giving our comments yet you are doing the same. Seems like we’re in the same boat… eh… And who are you to say we can’t make judgements or opinions, are you for real.
Just stay off the site and go to the kiddie area
you can’t handle the shit here.
Jeff
Feb 9, 2007 at 2:49 pm
god, you’re an idiot.
Sarah
Feb 9, 2007 at 5:39 pm
None of you are to judge someone on this young lasy. Im positive you all have your faults to and are mental at times your just lucky you havent got caught up in what your doing. No one even knows specific details on this to be talking about it at all so quit posting your stupid opinions on this and get a life. So “youknowthadeal” you need to chill out and maybe you should start reading a little more and learn how to spell you immature ass. I cant wait to see your face on the front page for some dumb crime, i will just be laughing…
much love
Jeff
Feb 9, 2007 at 6:30 pm
thank you.
Carol
Feb 9, 2007 at 11:22 pm
If we have never left a baby in a garbage can, then yeah, I think we do have a right to judge. Most people, excuse me, most SANE people, would not leave a dead body, let alone the infant they just delivered, in a garbage can. If you looked at her myspace before it was deleted, there was no mention of a pregnancy at all. She even posted a message to her boyfriend a day or two before this happened. So yes, I think most people that have NOT killed a child, have a right to judge her.
janet
Feb 10, 2007 at 7:36 am
The story is tragic, to say the least. I live in the Watertown, NY area and even sadder to me is that the hospital is only BLOCKS from the hotel where this occurred. The baby could have been left there!! What was going on in this young woman’s mind - not one of us can possibly know or understand. Have any of you stopped to think about what her FAMILY is going through??? If you’ve ever had a loved one who has gotten into trouble that is beyond what you could have imagined (and hey, it can happen to ANY of us), then you know her family right now is absolutely devastated. My heart goes out to them.
Maggie
Feb 10, 2007 at 8:37 am
Actually, if you read all the recent articles, it says that the girl was by herself when she suddenly went into labor. She tried to help guide the baby out of the birth canal and that’s how the baby got injured. Two medical examiners said the injuries were consistent with her trying to pull the baby out.
I think she went into shock. Everybody knows that you can’t just throw a baby in the garbage can. She had to know that they would find it. I honestly think that after going into childbirth, delivering a baby alone, and losing her child, she completely flipped out. She wanted the baby. The articles says that her boyfriend wanted her to have an abortion but she wanted to keep it.
And speaking of which, why isn’t her boyfriend in trouble? I like how SHE is the only one charged, but what about him?
I’m not saying this girl isn’t at fault, but more and more of the story seems to be coming out that shows she didn’t just hit the baby over the head because she didn’t want him.
janet
Feb 10, 2007 at 10:17 am
The reports said the boyfriend (just back from Iraq or Afghanistan) was in the shower when she suddenly went into labor. That’s a VERY quick labor!! I’m guessing or assuming the baby must have been at least a LITTLE early. It’s all very bizarre.
Jessica
Feb 10, 2007 at 10:22 pm
I think anyone who likes posting her myspace page up for everyone to see should mind their own fucking business. she was one of my friends and she’s already plastered all over the news. mind your own businesses. if only you knew her, you wouldn’t do say that.
Jessica
Feb 11, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Well, I also go to Western and after I first heard about this case Tuesday the 6th I decided to look up Andrea on Facebook and Myspace. I wanted to see what this girl looked like and what kind of person she must be. I was shocked to find that Andrea was clearly pregnant in pictures from Halloween and drinking BEER! This was only one of the many pictures of her partying with friends. If she cared about this child and really wanted to have it then why would she still be drinking? Here is another question for thought why in heck would her roommates allow and accept this behavior? I am going to assume that they did not know, but how they could not know baffles my mind. After viewing the pictures online I would sure as hell hope they did not know about the pregnancy. What kind of people condone this behavior? It sure seems like she was trying to hide her pregnancy from people, and someone who wants to have a child is happy and wants to share the news with loved ones not keep it a secret and continue to live the college life. I also find it very shady that this girl did not scream for help to get her boyfriends attention or pick the phone up and call the front desk. She had several options to chose from that would have changed the trouble she will soon face. A so called “normal” reaction to “accidently” killing your baby would be to seek help immediatly, not toss your child in the trash!
Maggie
Feb 11, 2007 at 8:13 pm
None of her pictures look like she’s pregnant. In fact, very few even show her stomach. I think it’s judgmental for you to assume that she was drinking knowing she was pregnant. I had a friend who drank alcohol until she found out she was pregnant, then quit. If you criticized every mother for drinking before knowing they’re pregnant, then I think you’re going to offend pretty much every mother out there.
One thing to point out is that no article ever said that the baby was carried for 9 months. I’m guessing that this girl was not showing too much. Like you said, her friends didn’t know and at 9 months, I’m sure friends would HAVE to know.
I’m not saying that I would have done the same thing, but I can’t imagine that poor girl being by herself, going into labor early in a unfamiliar place.
Jessica
Feb 11, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Your right on her myspace page there were not any full body shots and very few on facebook. However it was very clear that in the pictures from Halloween (which were full body shots) she had a bun in the oven. The baby bump did not look fake or part of the costume, it looked 100% natural. Not everyone drinks so assuming that I have offended every mother is absurd. I too have a friend that drank while she was pregnant before she knew, it happens.
Jeff
Feb 12, 2007 at 1:58 am
What a nice little reenactment of the Salem Witch Trials we have going on here.
The point is this: Without an open mind and consideration of every single detail, however miniscule it may be, we have no idea what her situation is like. None of us know her background or what kind of life she has led up to this point.
To those of you making judgements, read this with as much concentration as you can possibly muster:
Your facts have been gathered from the media.
The media doesn’t mention 90% of everything that is really going on here. The media often skews things in a way that may be so slight that it doesn’t really even seem as though they are trying to. There was one report that couldn’t help but let everyone know, that in her “children” section of her myspace profile, it said “someday.” Oh my, how ominous! How dramatic! This makes for some compelling entertainment, folks - get your popcorn ready. A good murder always keeps me on the edge of my seat, if I do say so myself.
Be warned that we all don’t know the half of it, people. This girl has gotten herself into a lot of trouble, but I don’t believe anyone is born a killer (well . . . let’s leave out Woody Harrelson, I suppose). All humor aside, what she needs is compassion, insight, and understanding.
This is John Proctor, signing off.
Jeff
Feb 12, 2007 at 2:21 am
PS - Jessica, this just in - it appears that the girl wasn’t screaming because, coincidentally, the unibomber immediately burst through the door and duct-taped her mouth shut. I mean, it was in the 11-o-clock report, so obviously, that must be exactly what happened, right?
Come on. I don’t think she was purposefully stifling any screams so that her boyfriend wouldn’t find out. What, do you think she brought along a nice piece of wood she could bite down on or something? Before we go around saying what’s “shady” and what’s not, let’s wait until we see what the hidden camera recorded - oh, wait, there wasn’t one in the room. Aw, gee. Give me a break.
Jessica
Feb 12, 2007 at 3:40 pm
JEFF get your shit straight…I personally saw the pictures before they were deleted…I mentioned nothing from the media you moron!
Have a good one
Maggie
Feb 12, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Jessica, remind me to go to you instead of my OBGYN to tell me if I’m pregnant because it seems like you’re a better judge of that than anyone here.
And to Jeff…I was pretty disgusted by the “someday” comment that the media tried to blow up into a big deal too. Unfortunately, people like to make assumptions based on a few college photos and quotes and not the facts.
Katie
Feb 12, 2007 at 6:12 pm
Wow, this just went nuts. There are a handful of situations in this world that there are just no circumstances in someone’s life can be justified. Throwing your own newborn in a trashcan is one of them.
So call me judgemental, go for it. I would be the first to say that at her age, pregnant with a soldier’s baby during a deployment- she could have had a zillion things going on in her heart, mind, and life in general. NONE of them can justify it, plain and simple.
I was 20 when I got pregnant with my soldier boyfriend’s baby. Lucky for me, I wanted to spend my life with him. I’m now married, raising my 9 month old boy, and finishing my degree in sociology. And from the minute I found out I was pregnant, and since then, because I now assume my responsibilities as an adult, a married woman, and a mother- I have not touched alcohol, I have not partied- as my grandmother would say- I haven’t done anything I wouldn’t want on the front page of the NY Times. I raise a baby and handle the household while my husband’s on the other side of the world, and I take care of him, too. I’m confident enough to say I’m one hell of a strong woman, and perhaps she didn’t have it in her. But to not have the humanity to do ANYTHING other than what she did- I don’t give a crap what else was going on. Man up, kid.
And as for the media arguement- when ya own the information, you can put it out however you want. It goes for politics, especially the war- but even for stories like this. I know that they love to make a sob story, which makes me look up something like a myspace. An insight into someone’s life- if this girl had looked like someone without resources during a pregnancy, someone with a disability, someone who had emotional trauma of some sort- but this girl was taking cutesie drunken pictures at college parties, then threw her baby in the trash. It makes me genuinely angry that people try to stand up for a behavior like that- if she was well enough emotionally to have a myspace like she did- she was freakin’ well enough to scream for help or dial 911 when she went into labor, or to have taken necessary precautions for her baby so that she never was in that position. So, I judge. So I “entertain” myself by reading about people like her. But I’m sorry, I don’t have time to go out and drink and party anymore. I took the other road, as most sane and responsible people would. And I love it.
Carol
Feb 12, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Amen katie!! Its people like this that make me ill. Take responsibility for what you did!! there is absolutely no reason at all whatsoever for this act. No rhyme and no reason. Even if she didnt realize she was pregnant until she was delivering, did she not realize what happened once there was a baby laying there? At that time, one of them should of called for help. I agree the boyfriend should be charged also. He had to of seen the mess. Ive had 3 children, I know its not a tidy scene right after child birth. And shes not a stupid girl, in shock or not, you have to realize you need help. There is absolutely no justifying what she did, no matter what the press says, her dead newborn was found in a garbage can, and thats the bottom line.
Jessica
Feb 12, 2007 at 9:42 pm
AMEN!!!! to you Katie and Carol. Dumping your newborn in the trash is sick and the fact that people are trying to justify it is sick in itself. A sane human would have tried to get help for the babie as soon as posible.
Jessica
Feb 12, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Hey Maggie, it does not take a rocket scientist to look at a picture and CLEARLY see the girl is pregnant! But apparently it does take one to know that no matter what, putting a dead newborn in the trash is NOT humane and should not be accepted.
FYI people don’t grow large stomachs out of no where. There were pictures of her in barley any clothes and her stomach was FLAT, not round and protruding from her body like the halloween pictures!.
Katie
Feb 12, 2007 at 11:29 pm
Haha, amen to the scene after a birth. If you get out of the shower and see a pool of blood, your girlfriend unable to walk with her legs anywhere near each other, and blood pouring from between her legs at rates unimaginable to anyone without children- you know what happened. And might say “Holy crap, where’s the baby?”
When all is said and done, it is sad for her. I am sorry she will have to live with this for her entire life, and that her’s and her boyfriend’s family are now mourning the loss of the baby. But, what having a little one makes you realize- nothing is about you from the moment of conception. You take on a whole new understanding of everything, and how every single decision you make affects another life. Not even just your child’s, but your family. It’s not just her baby, it’s someone’s grandchild. Someone’s nephew, cousin- whatever. And when she made the decision to avoid prenatal care (I’m assuming), to make risky decisions throughout her pregnancy, make many decisions (that regardless of what was going on in her life- SHE made) that ultimately placed her alone delivering a baby in a hotel room and feeling hopeless and lost enough to throw it in the trashcan- she committed murder, destroyed her baby’s life, and caused so much pain to so many people. I don’t have to know her to know that. I do judge those decisions, because they led to a horriffic death for an innocent newborn, and the devasatation I’m sure her’s and her boyfriend’s families are feeling.
I am of course sorry for her family, and even for her. But it’s about the baby to me.
YouKnowThaDeal
Feb 13, 2007 at 12:20 pm
LOL this bitch Sarah says learn how to spell and in her first sentence “None of you are to judge someone on this young lasy” WTF does that mean dumb ass. Anyway I spell how I want I know Talkin is spelled talking but I don’t give a fuck. THat’s not the mother fuckin issue the issue is this Jeff and so many others like him coming on here and talking shit yet doing the same fuckin thing. IF YOU DONT LIKE PEOPLE COMMENTING ABOUT A SUBJECT GET THE FUCK OUT.
aND jESSICA i THINK i LOVE YOU…haha girl you are so right. LoL get your shit straight…. I mean for real.
And Maggie obviously the girl was pregnant that’s a no-brainer you don’t just think up babies. So sad how some people stick up for the “winners” of our society.
Jeff
Feb 15, 2007 at 4:33 am
Ok, you saw facebook pictures. That must mean you know all about the life she has led now? These are the final piece to the puzzle? We have all the answers?
Youknowthedeal, I’m confused as to why your display name is the way it is, because clearly, “you” should be replaced with an “I.” You really don’t get my point at all. I’m not being hypocritical because I’m not doing the same things I’m criticizing people for doing. I’m not coming on this website and posting links to a myspace profile. My mouth isn’t watering over any newsroom shit. Therefore, your argument about “me coming on here and doing the exact same thing” makes no sense whatsoever.
I don’t stick up for “winners” and I don’t in the least defend whatever malicious actions criminals, murderers, etc. commit. I defend what I believe, and what I believe is that someone needs a lot of patience and the time to fully investigate a situation, before going and crucifying one of these “winners” you speak of. Thank god someone does stick up for them, because the world would be a pretty, sick, scary place, one person after another constantly being condemned without question. So go ahead and tell me it’s sad that I have an open mind, or that I don’t think it’s ok to shut another human being out without knowing every single one of the hows and whys. I just hope you took a little time to come up with that conclusion.
YouKnowThaDeal
Feb 15, 2007 at 11:53 am
All I’m saying is the fact that you took time out to come on here and reply shows that you are too looking at this “newsroom shit” Otherwise why waste your time clicking the button to go to mycrimespace.com? Doesn’t make sense.
Oh yah and Valentines Day Sucks!
Brandy
Feb 20, 2007 at 10:58 am
that just sickens me. why would u throw away a new born baby in a trash can. honestly who would, besides insane, pyscho people. If i was the mother of the baby i would’ve went to go get help. not only did she kill the baby she could’ve killed her self.
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