The babysitter who talked too much
Babysitter’s Facebook:
Brittany Steward is a 19-year-old from Western Pennsylvania. She has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the drowning death of her 20-month-old sister Jenna Walker and another girl, 2-year-old Maggie Kovski. Steward was supposed to be babysitting the pair but too much partying the night before left Steward in a condition where she was unable to properly monitor the children. While Steward was asleep the children wandered off and drowned in a nearby man made pond.
Steward started a Facebook group for Walker’s funeral letting people know when it was and who can attend. However she also allegedly posted her account of the events in question on her personal Facebook. Any attorney will tell you that this is basically judicial suicide.
“I don’t know any lawyer that would ever prefer a client to have committed to writing what it is that their version of events is,” says defense attorney and legal analyst Tim Lucas.
He says information on the Internet is anything but private.
“Whatever the person said, they’re pretty much stuck with, they can’t take back the version that they have given and, therefore, as a lawyer, you’re stuck with working with whatever that version might be,” Lucas says.
Apparently someone has convinced her of that because when I went to her Facebook there was nothing there.
Thanks to Home Sweet Home for the tip.
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255 opinions for The babysitter who talked too much
Ang
Jun 6, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Hey guys, it’s been awhile since i posted … I think I may have the myspace of Brittany … the age is correct, town is correct .. but it says Alabama, which i have a different town that what I’m in and a whole different state .. i’m not sure so here goes …
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=23951198
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Carolyn
Jun 7, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Try to keep in mind that she is young and is emotionally overwhelmed right now. She never intended to hurt those babies. She posted her account of the story before meeting her public defender, so she obviously didn’t know she was hurting herself by talking. We have all drank underage, we have just been fortunate enough to not have such horrible things happen as a result of it. Try not to judge.
Erica
Jun 13, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Yes, but the thing is she KNEW she had a responsibility to watch over these kids the next morning. (My good friend goes to school with her and used to be friends with her.) Even though she didn’t mean to, she knew the dangers of what she was doing, and still selfishly took part in getting drunk. If she didn’t stop drinking till 7 or 8am (which evidence proves), then she should have told them that she was not able to babysit. The fact of it is that she had those little kids’ lives in her hands. Even being this unstable, she should have taken responsibility to make sure all doors and windows were locked or slept in the room with them. She endangered their lives, and she KNEW she was doing so.
Justine
Jul 11, 2007 at 9:06 pm
IF ANYONE CAN SIT THERE AND SAY THEY HAVEN’T DONE SOMETHING CARELESS THEY ARE LIARS. MOST PEOPLE JUST BEEN LUCKY AND NOTHING BAD HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THEIR CARELESSNESS. BRITTANY WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE UNLUCKY PEOPLE. BRITTANY IS ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS. I KNOW SHE LOVED THOSE BABIES. SHE NEVER WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN.
Mark
Aug 6, 2007 at 6:41 pm
I agree with carolyn and Justine. I just met brittany a week ago, i may not know her that well yet, but i do know that she loved her baby-sister with all her heart, and we have all done stupid, unforgettable things in our lives and a majority of those things probably all included some for of alcohol, but in order for those people and us to learn from our mistakes is to first take responsibility for them which i know she has, and for all of us to not judge and condemn them for what they do, as much as you think that it may help, it only builds one more obstacle for them to get through before they can change themselves, so how bout if no one has anything to say then shut up and back off because there is nothing that your doing to help!!!!!
David
Aug 7, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Carelessness is not an excuse. She isn’t responsible, she knew she had to babysit yet stayed up and got drunk the night before, she deserves to go to jail. And it doesn’t matter who you are if you are careless enough to let to young children die, you deserve jail time.
Sally
Mar 11, 2008 at 8:30 am
Yes, Brittany is responsible for the deaths of two children, but what about the parents. I’m talking about Brittany and jenna’s parents and the parents of the other little girl. It seems to me that if you know your daughter is irresponsible, and lies on a daily basis, you would not leave her with small children. Brittany’s mother knew she was out all night. Yes, we all know that she was not at a slumber party doing little girl things, hanging out with good girls. I am sure that her mother was aware of this, too. Maggie’s mother was aware that Brittany was in no condition to babysit. I think that they should share the blame with her. If you as parents have failed to teach your children responsiblity, don’t expect miraculous results by giving them a crash course (forcing them to babysit).
Anonymous Writer
Mar 14, 2008 at 11:11 am
She’s a whore. I’ve worked with the girl now for almost a year…and every time I see her she’s talking about a party she was just at and how wasted she got. Doesn’t sound like someone who is broken up with what happened. Everyone has their own opinions, I’m entitled to mine, but if you ask me, she doesn’t seem that sorry about what happened. I mean, the whole store knew about the incident within a few days…like she was using it to gain attention. VERY SAD!
rebecca
Mar 14, 2008 at 10:46 pm
First of all she only knoew that she was watching Jenna without any clue that maggie was coming over till later that morning. There are so many “wat if’s” that we can all go over and over but that is not gonna change the fact that this was certainly not on purpose. As her sister i know that, Hello dumbasses, she would never have wanted this to happen to her own sister let alone another human being!! Maggie was also a big part of our family!! Get a clue before you start judging people and maybe start doing something to put time on your hands cause a lot of you obviously have a boring life if all you can do is judge someone you dont even know or have any clue about what is going on!!
Thanx.
Laurie
Mar 15, 2008 at 11:16 am
Anonymous writer…..maybe she is partying because she wants to numb herself from all the pain? You can’t possibly know what she is thinking or who she is by judging her behavior as you see it. We all have our masks that we wear, and we all do and say things sometimes that are misinterpreted or misunderstood.
Rebecca - Obviously, none of us can know what will happen when we do dumb things, and if we had a clue beforehand, we would not do the dumb thing.
You are absolutely right - I know I have made many many dumb mistakes, thank god nothing like this ever happened to me. My heart goes out to you and your family.
Anonymous
Mar 15, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Hello everyone: I don’t think Steward is a whore. She is just young and misguided (of course, some of her actions do border on desperation). She is only behaving like a lot of other girls her age in today’s society, engaging in free random sex, drugs and alcohol. You don’t have to look far to see that she is only trying to fit in with her friends. Just look at her facebook or myspace. Birds of a feather flock together. No, I don’t believe her actions to be deliberate, but it was negligence just the same. I think that what makes her actions appear so malicious is the fact that she demonstrates no remorse. It is apparent that she does continue to get trashed. She brags about it to her co-workers and everyone else. If I were her, I would be careful as someone could tell the District Attorney what she is really like, and he might decide to appeal the decision made by Judge Dwyer. In fact, I would be surprised if they haven’t already. Because of her conduct, people think she doesn’t care if she did cause the deaths of two little girls. Her biggest concerns appear to be #1NOT BEING PROSECUTED AFTER ALL WE KNOW SHE IS COMPLETELY INNOCENT. DIDN’T YOU KNOW - SHE IS THE ONLY VICTIM HERE.(SARCASM) #2 updating her facebook or myspace, #3 what to wear, and #4 how trashed she can get at the next party. No, she is probably not guilty of involuntary manslaughter, she is simply guilty of not giving a damn.
Anonymous
Mar 15, 2008 at 7:57 pm
rebecca… First of all where did you graduate from, you can’t spell. Oh that’s right you did’nt.
All Brittany had to do was say NO! But apparently no is not in her vocabulary from what
I hear.
Disguisted 20 year old
Mar 16, 2008 at 10:35 am
Brittany Steward is an unapologetic nineteen year old girl who is not even capable of understanding the impact of her actions because she is simply too concerned with herself and what may happen to her as a result of her inconcsiderate and negligent proceedings on the day of the deaths of two beautiful, innocent girls. I too am twenty years old, and I too make mistakes and from time to time neglect certian responsibilities that I am aware of, but under no circumstances would I ever be so stupid as to allow myself to fall asleep while babysitting two young girls who were so “important” to me and so “loved” by not only myself, but my entire family and another family that I would consider to be an extension of my own. I do not even believe it is simply a matter of stupidity, rather a combination of that, selfishness and trashiness. Any intelligent human being would be able to look at Brittany Steward and recognize how rediculous she is and could clearly identity what’s really “important” to her as of right now…I read in earlier posts that she was using this incident as a way to gain attention, this would not surprise me. Even as children she was constantly going out of her way to recieve some form of attention, usually by skanking herself around to boys four years older, four years younger, and anywhere in between. Not that the fact that she is a slut is really vital to what I am saying, but it is a prime example of her concerns. I have heard from several people who are still a part of Brittany’s life that she wasted no time telling her side of the story and acting as if she were the victim. This just goes to show that again, she is not capable of understanding her actions…or perhaps she understands, and just does not care. People who side with Brittany continue to defend her by saying “she never wanted this to happen”….well assholes, either did anyone else, but it’s not a matter of whether or not she wanted it to happen, it is a matter of whether or not she LET it happen, and as all the evidence shows, she did. Brittany had the potential to avoid all of this drama by being honest and opening up from the beginning, instead she immediately took the opposite approach and began looking for sympathy and someone else to blame and for that reason alone she should be punished. Shame on that dirty whore for not realizing her faults and for taking this to such high extremes and putting all those involved through such hardships. Not only should she be put in prison for allowing these young girls to die, she should be put in prison for being a selfish, worthless piece of skank who is so dumb as to believe people would actually by her inconsistent and rediculous accounts of what happened that horrible day. A slap on the wrist would only allow this irresponsible and ultimately shitty person to continue living a life of self gaining at the expense of others. It is unfortunate that all of this has to happen, but justice should be seved…she had a chance to take an easier route through all of this, instead she continues to believe she is innocent, and for that…she should pay.
kind friend
Mar 16, 2008 at 9:01 pm
WOW!!!! do any of you besides rebecca know her? Have ANY of you seen her out doing any of the accusations you all talk about? How can you sit here and not know anything about her story or what she is actually going through…this poor girl is going through so much right now its not even funny!!! NOT only did she loose her sister and friend she lost her WHOLE FAMILY… now how would you feel if something like this happened to you and you didnt have anyone in your family there to back you up? On top of that we all know how the media can blow things way out of proportion!! How can you have the right to judge her for what happened that horrible day…who gave any of you the right???? Seriously leave the poor girl alone she is already going through enough!!! Turn the tables around, honestly how would you feel if no one knew the true story and believed everything they heard and treated you like you are treating her i hope she doesnt ever see any of these comments!!!
bootyj
Mar 17, 2008 at 9:42 am
I am not sure I understand how the media could blow this out of proportion, hungover or not,passed out or wide awake, two babies died while she was supposed to be watching them. There is no way to sugar coat that, that is fact of the situation.
Sally
Mar 17, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Yes, we are sad to say that we do know her. Furthermore, she needs to take responsibility for her actions, and realize that when two children die as a result of her sleeping on the couch then she should be held accountable. It is an absolute fact that she was sleeping because she had been up all night having a good time. This is something that she still continues to do. She also needs to realize that her family may not want to be around her at this time because of the pain and anguish that she alone has caused. Everyone knows she didn’t do it on purpose; however, this is not something to just brush under the rug. She did more than merely step on a bug on the sidewalk, and she should be held accountable. Furthermore, Brittany needs to realize that this is not about her. The two babies are the victims here and she is not. She is the selfish perpetrator. Her conduct since the date of their deaths demonstrates that she lacks empathy for anyone other than herself. I hope the memory of those two human lives that were so carelessly ended are not tossed aside like the manslaughter charges. I am certainly glad that we have this forum to vent on. I feel much better having gotten this off my chest.
Just a guy
Mar 17, 2008 at 1:43 pm
None of you really get it do you? That girl would give anything in the world to take the place of the two children. Everyone on here except for a few people have no right to talk and don’t even know her. what happened happened and no one can turn back time. You all think of her as she intended for this to happen. What happened was a TRAGEDY not a CRIME. The fact that she has to live with this for the rest of her life should be enough of a punishment! If taking a nap while the children are napping is a crime then you better arest every parent in America! And yes the media does blow everything up and twists words around!
bootyj
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Nope, sorry it was a crime, she was negligent, she fell asleep on the job and two deaths resulted from that. Let’s say for example a doctor was operating and well had a few to many the night before and fell asleep while operating, are you going to say that was just a “tragedy” and not a “crime”. When a child dies because of the actions or lack of actions from an adult, yes it is a crime, and most judges will side with that, examples: adult/parent leaves a child in a car, bath tub, home alone and the child dies, there is no accident it was negligence, those children could not fend for themselves, they need a responsible adult to take care of them, something Brittany did not do.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:12 pm
It is apparent that you really don’t know her, and YOU DON’T GET IT! If she is so sorry, and would gladly take their place, why did she lie? Why not openly admit that she was out all night and didn’t get any sleep - a fact she should have told her mother. It’s really easy to say that you would take someone’s place when you know that it is impossible to do so. Yes, it is a tragedy, but not for her. It is a tragedy for those two little girls, and their families. Perhaps people would think better of her if she conducted herself differently. The fact that she has to live with this for the rest of her life doesn’t bother her. If it did, she wouldn’t continue to engage in the very activities that attributed to their deaths in the first place. Yes, people do have a tendency to nap when they have been out all night partying until dawn. Who’s to say that the girls were actually taking a nap, maybe she just fell asleep on the couch while they were playing. The facts seem to point in that direction.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:13 pm
THANK YOU BOOTYJ
bootyj
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Quote:”And yes the media does blow everything up and twists words around!”
How in the world can the media twist this around to make it any worse. Very simple, let’s take out the fact she was hungover, had been drinking the night before, doesnt matter, put that aside. The fact is two babies are dead that were her responsiblity. So are you saying if the news and media had just printed , two children died on babysitters watch, it wouldnt be so bad, but since the media included the facts, that they are the bad ones now.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm
YOUR JUST A GUY AND A STUPID ONE AT THAT.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:19 pm
He is basing his statement on her lies. That is the “bull” she has been handing out since this started.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:21 pm
She may have to live with this for the rest of her life, but guess what? Jenna and Maggie don’t get to live at all.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 2:28 pm
That so-called girl would have done anything not to go to jail. She certainly wasn’t thinking of them on the night after they died. She was at a local dance club having a good time. Her friend testified to this in court. It was also testified that she made several attempts to get people to lie for her. Given that information, it doesn’t sound to me like she would gladly take her sister’s place.
Sick and tired (no pun intended)
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:01 pm
This is in response to “Kind Friend”
Let me start by saying I “DO” know Brittany and have for a very long time. A fact I hate to admit now that I know the “REAL” Brittany. Not the sweet, kind girl she like to portray. I assume you don’t know her or you would know that she hasn’t lost her family. They were at the hearing in full force trying to convince everyone that she has been paid the price.
I am here to say she has not. Those precious innocent baby girls paid the ultimate price. Because the “adult” who was trusted to protect them did not do her job. They died in one of the most awful ways to die. I hope we don’t lose site of this fact. They are the ones who deserve the sympathy. Next in line for paying the price would be the parents of these sweet babies. You say how “poor Brittany” will have the images of that day in her head forever? You don’t think that the parents struggle with images of their own? The feelings of guilt for trusting someone who, obviously, didn’t deserve the trust. They have to learn to cope with life without their baby girls in it. They too deserve sympathy. Then there are the families of these beautiful babies. What about the young family members who now have to learn to cope with death before they are old enough to understand it? Brittany “may” fall in line next but at this point, she doesn’t deserve it until she comprehends the severity of her “bad judgement”. I am not saying that there might not come a time when she desersves a little sympathy, but until she learns to feel remorse she doesn’t deserve it. It seems to me that she should spend “some” time in jail so she has the time to think about her “bad judgment” and the impact on many, many people. No just herself!
bootyj
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Well, there has been some news on this, just happened Friday.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080315/NEWS02/803150397
Seems she got of lucky and the manslaughter charges were dropped, she still faces charges of reckless endangerment.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:09 pm
To: Just a Guy
Sorry, dude. It was a crime. They were left in her charge. She did not provide the necessary care due to negligence resulting in their deaths. I agree with “sick and tired”. She should spend time in jail.
Stefanie
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Quote from Sally
“Yes, Brittany is responsible for the deaths of two children, but what about the parents. I’m talking about Brittany and jenna’s parents and the parents of the other little girl. It seems to me that if you know your daughter is irresponsible, and lies on a daily basis, you would not leave her with small children. Brittany’s mother knew she was out all night. Yes, we all know that she was not at a slumber party doing little girl things, hanging out with good girls. I am sure that her mother was aware of this, too. Maggie’s mother was aware that Brittany was in no condition to babysit. I think that they should share the blame with her. If you as parents have failed to teach your children responsiblity, don’t expect miraculous results by giving them a crash course (forcing them to babysit).”
Sally,
You obviously don’t know the heartache Maggie’s parents endured to have her and that they would never intentionally put her in harms way. They knew this girl from the time she was little and had no reason not to trust that she was telling the truth that she was okay. Maggie’s Mama gave her three chances to get out of babysitting and all three times she ASSURED her she was okay. She even gave her her cell # to call if she felt too tired. NOW she has to live with the constant turmoil of knowing she trusted someone who didn’t deserve her trust. They live with this hell EVERYDAY so before you go judging them, think about how ridiculous that is. Someone who prayed for and wanted a baby so badly for so long, why the hell would they throw that away. Maggie’s and Jenna parents are VICTIMS. They lost their children and their lives that day. They will never be the same. Having people such as you judge them only adds to their pain. They don’t need it, they don’t deserve it, so think the next time you write something such as that.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Trust me. Sally knows the whole story now. It was not Mrs. Kovski’s fault.
Anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The Walker’s and Kovski’s have our deepest sympathy. However, Brittany does not.
Just Me
Mar 17, 2008 at 4:16 pm
she has no remorse she is pig headed and stupid and should be charged
bootyj
Mar 17, 2008 at 8:46 pm
so, I was discussing this story with an associate, one question that was askedthat I dont think was brought up before, Brittany was only 19, who bought the beer, who was hosting the party she attended, are or have they been charged? just curious.
anonymous
Mar 17, 2008 at 10:14 pm
No charges have been filed. It was a college party and there were people there old enough to purchase the beer. I am not sure why that part of the issue has not been addressed. Good question though.
Close to the tragedy
Mar 18, 2008 at 10:15 am
All of the young people that are close to Brittany, you do know that you are judged by whom your friends are. I would be very cautious of being a friend to someone like Brittany Steward! You will grow up to regret that decision!
Just a guy
Mar 18, 2008 at 12:04 pm
to anonymous: actually it was not a crime, by definition for there to be negligent’s one has to know that the actions you take would result in the death of another. no one could have know that her actions would have resulted in death. the judge even said it himself! by the way i’m not a “Stupid Guy”!
Anonymous
Mar 18, 2008 at 12:25 pm
The manslaughter may have been tossed, but the other charges will most likely stick. This is because she left two chidren unsupervised in an unsafe area. Any area can be considered unsafe if harm may result due to the child not being supervised. The question here is: Did she act in the same manner that a reasonable person would have in the same circumstances? Knowing they had to babysit the next morning, reasonable people would not have been out partying in the first place. Such people would have said, “no, I can’t babysit because I was out all night, and I will not be able to provide adequate care”. A reasonable person wouldn’t have went to sleep knowing that one of the children had the capacity to open doors. A reasonable person wouldn’t have left two children have the full run of the house while they slept. There is no proof that Jenna was in her crib while Brittany slept. The condition of the house indicates to the contrary. If you believe Brittany, you are a stupid guy.
Anonymous
Mar 18, 2008 at 12:27 pm
To: The Stupid Guy.
Were you in the court room?
Anonymous
Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Hmmmm…Did she know that leaving them alone unsupervised would cause their deaths. Probably not. However, you can’t tell me that she didn’t have some inkling that they might get hurt if she wasn’t watching them. In the back of her mind (behind “what party am I going to tonight”) she most likely did think about this, but it is evident that pure selfishness got the better of her.
?
Mar 18, 2008 at 6:21 pm
A lier from the start, she’ll get hers in this life or another.
anonymous
Mar 18, 2008 at 10:33 pm
To Just a Stupid Guy:
You are incorrect on your definition of negligence. Negligence means that you neglected to proform a duty that you had. What you are talking about is an element of mens rea, that is, a mental state required for certian intentional crimes such as first degree murder. It is “not” a requirement for involuntary manslaughter. (hence “involuntary”) Involuntary manslaughter requires EITHER a reckless disregaurd or gross neglegence. Thus, it isn’t necessary that she knew her actions would cause death; rather, it is enough that she should have known that some harm could have resulted.
Anonymous
Mar 19, 2008 at 8:25 am
To the Kind Friend.
Yes, I have seen her out doing the things that people talk about.
Anonymous
Mar 19, 2008 at 8:35 am
To the Kind Friend:
How can YOU actually know her? Do YOU live with her? Do YOU talk with her on a daily basis. Or, did YOU just happen to overhear her feeling sorry for herself. It is obvious that you have no idea what YOU are talking about.
Just a guy
Mar 19, 2008 at 1:28 pm
the kids were down for a nap, so she took one herself, i would hardly agree thats considered leaving them alone, that is not a crime! you people seriously need to get a life! do you really have nothing better to do then talk about this?
Stefanie
Mar 19, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Just a Guy, you are absolutely right, putting a child down for a nap and then taking one yourself is not a crime.
HOWEVER, this is not what happened in this case. She was sleeping off a drunken stupor from an all night party that she chose to attend
when she KNEW she had to babysit the next morning. She CHOOSE to go out drinking (and the last I checked it was illegal to drink at age 19) She lied about being okay, she assured Maggie’s mother that she was perfectly fine, when Maggie’s mother would have taken those girls and watched them in a heartbeat, like she did every other day. How do you think she feels knowing she chose to trust someone with her precious daughter that certainly wasn’t worthy of that trust? Can you IMAGINE the living hell. No you cannot. Neither can I~Thank God.
She lied to the 911 operator, lied to the police, went to a dance club and asked other people to lie for her. If it was just as simple as putting a child down for a nap, she would have my heartfelt sympathies. But it isn’t that simple. She never put those babies down for a nap, she fell asleep as soon as Maggie’s mother went out the door. Which, by the way Mrs. Kovski instructed her to lock because Maggie could open doors. Jenna was so tiny, there is NO WAY she could have gotten out of that crib. HMMMMM let me see could Maggie have gotten her out???? The smartest, strongest and most agile 2-year-old in the world wouldn’t be able to accomplish that task. Oh and furthermore, Maggie no longer took naps in the morning. So, her story (the one she decided to stick with at the moment) doesn’t add up, now does it?
So you see, Just a Guy this story JUST doesn’t make any sense. It isn’t JUST a matter of a sweet young girl, who took a nap when the children were napping. She was a drunken, selfish liar.
She is also guilty of stealing, stealing from her family and stealing from the Kovskis. She stole their “Gift from God” that the went through hell to have and prayed to God to send to them. He did, and Brittany Steward took all that away. Do you know what her mood is on her MySpace. Blessed. She is blessed, because she is alive. Maggie and Jenna don’t have that luxury. How Blessed do you think the Kovskis feel?
How in God’s name ANYONE can feel that this is a crime JUST doesn’t get it. Or they are as selfish and immature as she is. Or, in the Judge’s case, JUST PLAIN DUMB!!!!!!!!!
Stefanie
Mar 19, 2008 at 10:06 pm
In my rant above in the last paragraph, I said anyone who thinks this IS a crime, when obviously what I meant was anyone who thinks this ISN’T a crime, otherwise I would be insulting myself. Sorry for the confusion!
Anonymous
Mar 20, 2008 at 9:45 am
For Just a Guy: Don’t let your feelings for her color your perception. Let’s consider Brittany’s story (keep in mind that she has already told several lies in an attempt to avoid prosecution). She said she put the chidren down for a nap around nine (this had to be soon after Mrs. Kovski left. Mrs. Kovski stated that both girls appreared not to be tired and were playing in the family room while Brittany was laying on the couch). She alleges that she put Jenna in the crib and made a bed for Maggie on the floor. She said she left the door ajar so that she could hear them if they woke up. However, all evidence indicates that the children were not taking a nap.
Let us consider this: According to Maggie’s mother, Maggie never took naps in the morning, and Jenna had never been able to climb out of her crib. In light of this, if she had placed Jenna in the crib, she would not have died. Who knows, maybe Maggie wouldn’t have either. The so-called make shift bed of blankets on the floor mean nothing. They could have been thrown out of the crib by Jenna earlier because that’s what chidren do. The house, garage, and yard that are always kept neat and tidy, had toys scattered from one end to the other not to mention all of the other things that were out of place, indicating that the two children had free run of the house for some time. Because the doors were not locked, which Mrs. Kovski had instructed Brittany to do, the children eventually wandered out into the yard. They played out in the yard for a while and then traveled almost two foot ball fields to the pond.
A more plausible story is that Brittany fell asleep on the couch shortly after Mrs. Kovski left because she had been out all night, demonstrating a blatant disregard for Jenna’s and Maggie’s safety.
Laurie
Mar 20, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Anonymous - I can understand how you feel this young woman does not deserve any type of forgiveness, and that her falling asleep is a crime because she should not have told the mom’s that she could watch the kids after partying all night. This is a terrible tragedy all the way around.
What would have happened if she backed out at the last moment? What consequence would she have suffered then?
I am sure that now, that consequence seems very small compared to what has happened.
I know I made mistakes with my kids, and I was fortunate enough not to have anything fatal happen to them.
Chances are this young woman will never forget, but I cannot speak for her since I do not know her, and I can’t judge her either. Everyone will have regrets for what they did or did not do on that day. It is easy to take all the anger, pain and rage and direct it at the person who was irresponsible. But, she is very young and is probably terrified and horrified of what she did not do on that day. Who would want to face it? Kids do dumb things. Dumb things that have tragic endings.
Sometimes very young children have walked out of their houses, even with the parents home, and found their way into a terrible situation. Who is to blame then? Why is everyone so eager to blame someone? Blame does no good. Hindsight is 20/20.
If she has lied, she may have reacted out of fear and loathing and not wanting to feel the pain of what she has done. Who would want to face it? Has anyone been receptive to her admitting the truth? Under these circumstances, I would think it would take some time to get at the real truth. Sounds like this young woman may have issues if she is partying all the time.
This may not be apparent to you or anyone else - maybe not even to herself since we as humans are so good at hiding our true feelings.
I hope you find a way to heal and forgive. To hold all of those feelings inside could eventually end up hurting you even more.
Anonymous
Mar 20, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Laurie,
What if Brittany had never made it home, what if she hit some family on their way to school or daycare and she killed 1 person or every person. She never intended to kill anyone when she got into that car and decided to drive, but she did. I believe that is a crime, and not only would she be in jail for that she would have been charged with under age drinking. Nobody drinks and drives and intends on hurting anyone on that drive home but it happens. It should’nt because we all know that it is wrong but people do it anyway. Maybe we should start excussing those people because they did’nt mean it and they are going to have to live with it the rest of their lives. (The only reason that there was no alcohol in her system is because she showed up at home around 7 am and they did not take her blood until 5 pm, just before she went to her friends house to get ready to go out.)
I just heard on the news today that the person responsible for the fire at a bar a couple years ago that killed 100 people because he was careless with the bands special effects, was let out of jail. I am guessing that when he got up that day he did not say to himself that he was going to set a bar on fire and kill 100 people. It happened and I bet people are going to think twice before they do the fancy pyrotecnics in a small bar.
Maggie and Jenna died because she is irresponsible and did’nt have the common sense to either stay home, go home at a resonable hour, don’t drink, or just say no I can’t babysit.
Because she has no respect for her family, and stays out all night the night before she knows that she is supposed to babysit says volumes about her character. Or should I say lack of character.
The night that the girls drowned she was at not 1 but 2 bars trying to find the people who were at the party so that she could get them to lie for her. She never should have been let out of jail, I don’t belive for one minute that she has followed any of the conditions of her release, according to one of her coworkers she has put a few notches on her belt, (I feel sorry for the guy who is the one forever or more than likely the one until someone better comes around). He is really getting sloppy seconds. I hope that the DA questions some of her coworkers and finds out just what kind of person she is.
To many bad things happed to children who depend on adults to take care of them, she needs to be made an example of so that the next thoughtless teenager that is going to be responsible for small children thinks twice about accepting the responsibility when they may not be in any condition to watch them.
Advocate for the victims
Mar 20, 2008 at 11:18 pm
To Anonymous: I couldn’t agree with you more. The Assistant DA may not have been able to establish gross neglect; however, Brittany is guilty of wreckless endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child, and she should be made an example. Brittany needs to spend some time in jail so that she can reflect on what she has done without getting side-tracked (getting trashed at the next party).
Advocate for the victims
Mar 20, 2008 at 11:21 pm
To Laurie: Being able to vent on this forum really helps.
Advocate for the victims
Mar 20, 2008 at 11:29 pm
“Just a Guy” has probably been out drinking with her because birds of a feather flock together.
Let me ask you, “just a guy”. Have you been out partying with Brittany lately, engaging in the very conduct that contributed to the deaths of those two little girls? Are you of legal drinking age?
You seem to know her story (lies) pretty well.
gev
Mar 25, 2008 at 1:48 pm
What is the amount of time one could spend in jail for the charges Brittany is accused of?
Someone
Mar 25, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I did some research on that. She could get up to a year in jail for the endangering the welfare of a child charge. I am not sure about the other; however, both are misdemeanors.
Someone
Mar 25, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Remember that she has four counts against her. So, that could be four years.
Someone
Mar 25, 2008 at 2:24 pm
For everyone to read: The other charges will most likely be upheld because “reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable con-sequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.
It is not necessary that death or grievous bodily harm be actually inflicted to prove reckless endangerment.
Momma Brown
Apr 2, 2008 at 3:41 pm
First of all, any of you people who are posting nasty horrible comments on here without posting your true name are cowards!!!!!!!! Your opinion of what should happen to Brittany does not matter. The relavance of what Brittany is doing now does not matter, it only shows that she is very troubled with dealing with the guilt of what happened. I am sure she needs counseling or is in counceling right now, I am also sure that it will take years for her and the families to learn to even cope with this tragedy. This is not a website to bash or trash, I realize that this is a free country and we have the freedom of speach but noone truley knows what the truth is or what Brittany is feeling but Brittany herself. Once again I feel if you want to post all the bullcrap you are saying about Brittany, you should be confident enough to post your name so people can see who the bullcrap is coming from…. If your gonna talk the talk you better be prepared to walk the walk….. And yes there are alot of people who know me from FLB as Momma Brown …..
An observer
Apr 3, 2008 at 11:29 am
All we know are her actions. They speak a lot louder than your words.
Anonymous
Apr 3, 2008 at 10:02 pm
She obviously has Momma Brown fooled. I met Brittany several years ago and she did not impress me as someone that had any substance whats so ever, looks like I was right. She is a user and she can be what ever she needs to be to get what ever she wants.
Momma Brown
Apr 3, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Once again no names…. your actions speak no sense since you dont want to step up…… I never said nor did my words say she impressed me. I said it doesnt matter what anyone thinks should happen to her, the law will do what it needs to do. I just think that if people want to talk crap on here they should be proud enough to state thier name so the family truley knows who is saying what they are saying. If you feel that strong and passionate of what you are saying then speak loud and proud dont stand in a corner and cower and hide your face. Also if you had any intelligence at all and you read my statement you would see that I didn’t sway one way or the other, I stated a fact. So how does that mean she fooled or impressed me????? Oh and To an observer her actions may speak louder then my words but what relavence does that have to you or me? This is definately a young girl who needs help, I am sure alot of help. Oh and you know all her actions or are you just believing all the bull crap on here?
Lee
Apr 4, 2008 at 8:31 am
I know her actions, and they are contrary to someone in the grieving process. Whether you like it or not, a lot of people are grieving over this - more than just the immediate families. Many people are just trying to understand what appears to be Brittany’s blatant disregard for human life, and her utter lack of empathy and remorse. I can understand their frustrations - many of which are reflected in this forum. I also think she needs help, but I also know that she does not want help. This is because she actually believes she is innocent. Unfortunately, a lot of what is written on here is true. It may not be relevant, but it is true just the same. In light of this, perhaps you, Momma Brown, shouldn’t be so quick to judge others. I know for a fact that you do not know what Brittany needs. You are just surmising, perhaps feeling important, making your assumptions as a mere passing acquaintance.
Momma Brown
Apr 4, 2008 at 7:52 pm
not surmising, and not just a passing acquaintance, I was with the family the day after it happened. Here is a question for you…. Why should Lynn have to loose 2 children. Like I said Brittany is a sad grieving, distressed and confused young girl who needs help………….
Laurie
Apr 4, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Lee - I don’t know anyone in this situation, but I do know that people sometimes act contrary to what we think they should behave like - especially someone in alot of pain, someone with alot of issues.
Many people who are grieving over this - what exactly does that mean. People who know the family? Total strangers?
You know Brittany personally, and can attest to her lack of regard for human life? You have had conversations? She has committed other acts?
Again - people make mistakes. We are all human. There is not one of us on this earth that has not damaged something. Some of us are lucky enough that the mistakes we have made do not haunt us for the rest of our lives.
Lee
Apr 4, 2008 at 9:33 pm
To Momma Brown,
I am sure that a lot of people showed up the day after this happened. It doesn’t mean that you know anything. Lynn has lost one daughter - not two. Brittany is still here, and let’s not forget Becca and Mindy. Brittany may end up behind bars for a while, but she is still on this earth, and I’m sure that she will have visitation. Trust me, it will do her some good - slow her down a bit. As far as the grieving part goes - again, you do not know what you are talking about. Where do you get the idea that she is grieving? Trust me, she hasn’t CRASHED yet - far from it. In her mind, she is completely innocent. This was merely an accident that she just happened to stumble upon, and everyone should feel sorry for her. In fact, most of the time, you would never know that anyone died if it wasn’t common knowledge. As a matter of fact, the only time she does cry is when she is told she can’t do something, and then she throws a temper tantrum (or when she thinks she is going to jail). She is very much a young child in many ways, and in my opinion, she should not have been watching those girls. Yes, you are right. She definitely needs help, but I don’t see that happening any time soon. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. Maybe, you can help her…May God help you if you try.
Mrs Garda
Apr 5, 2008 at 11:02 am
My biggest problem with this whole thing, (other than the obvious two children being dead of course!) is that she didn’t learn her lesson. If I’ve read correctly she’s still partying. She’s still doing everything she did before that led her to creating this misfortune. Now…to me that spells unrepentant and horrible. You cannot defend someone adequately who refuses to grow up after something so horrible happens as direct result of your actions or inactions. You just can’t.
Lee
Apr 5, 2008 at 11:25 am
Mrs Garda: There are a lot of people who feel the exact same way. It is very hard to have compassion for someone who apparently places no value on human life. Brittany’s conduct borders on narcissism. Because of her selfishness, she lacks the capacity for empathy.
Momma Brown
Apr 5, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I dissagree with you Lee……but…I tottally understand where you are comming from. I never said I could help her, I am sure someone can, That’s all I am saying. I too am a mother and yes it would be a tragedy if I lost one of my children, but if the other was going to go to jail, that too would feel like losing a child also, I have never stated that she shouldn’t go to jail, the reason for my comments were the rude coments of her being a pig, and a whore and I am sure those were all just being done by kids. When I seen Becca getting attacked it was my instinct, I think of Becca as part of my family, it was the Mom in me. I stated that the law would take care of itself. My heart breaks for everyone in that family, I know I wouldn’t want it to happen to me or even wish that on my worst enemy. I can’t imagine the pain.
Mrs Garda
Apr 5, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Momma Brown: I agree with you on the name calling. There’s no point in calling the girl a whore or a slut or anything like that. It’s not called for. What she -is- is self centered, and uncaring, most definitely, but that doesn’t mean it’s suddenly okay to resort to namecalling. I’m a mother myself, and I have to say that, though it would feel like losing a second child to have her put in jail, I’d also welcome that decision because there’s nothing as a mother that I could do that would be punishment enough for allowing two children to die with her -right there- in the house. Honestly my heart goes out to her mother both because of her loss, and because you know she’s having to deal with the backlash of having Brittany as a daughter.
Mrs Garda
Apr 5, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I might add, that had she been driving a car drunk and hit these children she’d be in jail for involuntary manslaughter. She may not have been driving a car, but she -was- behind the wheel metaphorically. She was in charge of these kids and she let them down. There -needs- to be restitution for that. Mistake or not, two children are dead, and she’s the cause.
anonymous
Apr 7, 2008 at 8:56 am
God Bless you, Mrs. Garda.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:07 am
Er. Thank you. *blush*
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:10 am
To Laurie:
Who wouldn’t grieve over this? I was at the funeral, and it was gut-wrenching. Everyone cried, and I mean EVERYONE. I still get tears in my eyes when I think about it. I hope this is over soon, and justice is served. Mrs Garda is right - there must be some form of restitution.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:22 am
She might be in absolute denial. I don’t know…sometimes that part of the brain shuts down when horrible things happen. Case in point, child molesters or abusers who say they can’t remember what they’ve done. I’m not likening this girl to one of them, so please no jumping to conclusions, but it’s been proven that the brain sometimes refuses to remember things that are particularly damaging, or else it remembers things in a different, colored way. She may truly think she’s innocent because she just can’t bear to believe anything else. That doesn’t make her less guilty.
The issue isn’t really whether she feels bad or not. Murderers can feel remorse. -Anyone- aside from sociopaths can feel remorse. That doesn’t mean they aren’t held accountable. Accident or not, remorseful or not, those are not the issues. We don’t let people go in our system just because they ‘feel bad now.’
Case in point, the man I’m divorcing hurt our daughter. She wouldnt stop crying so he tried to make her stop crying. When I found out about it, I had him put in jail immediately. Did he feel bad for it? Yes. Of course. Did he still need to suffer the consequences? Yes. Because if he hadn’t I never would’ve been able to look my daughter in the eye. It would’ve been like excusing him for hurting her. (She’s okay now btw, none the worse for wear. It’s been several months.) If the mothers of these deceased children, even brittany’s own mother were to just let it go, it would be–in my eyes–devaluing the lives of the deceased. That’s my humble opinion. Do with it what you will.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 10:36 am
Yes, I agree with you, but what keeps me wondering is the fact that she went out of her way to get people to lie for her. It seems to me that if you were in complete denial then no one would need to lie for you because in your mind, you are innocent. However, she tried to cover her tracks; thereby, implying her guilt. Therefore she must realize that she is responsible. She just doesn’t want to be prosecuted as this would be a big inconvenience for her.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 10:41 am
Ooooh I didn’t really know that Lee. Definitely no one lies if they have no REASON to lie, and that definitely does say a lot. In light of that, really, why is she NOT in jail? Surely someone looked these things over. Or has trial not happened yet? (Forgive me, it’s early and I don’t remember the details of the case.)
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 10:57 am
The trial has not taken place yet. Last I heard the DA was trying to refile charges.
Brittany is out on a $5000 bond at the moment.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:00 am
Oh god. And she’s still drinking/etc etc? *Sigh* That’s going to look -horrible- for her. Hasn’t her lawyer told her not to do that stuff??? It’s going to look -bad- if the prosecutor gets ahold of that information. I almost feel -weary- hearing that. I physically had to stop myself from facepalming. She’s not making things easy on herself.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:01 am
Why hasn’t her mother stepped up and put the girl on lock down? Granted she’s grieving but…maybe she hopes Brittany will hoist herself on her own petard so to speak.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:02 am
No, she is not making things easy. I just found out from goerie.com the the DA has reinstated the manslaughter charges. I feel sorry for the families in this case, but not for her. She needs to learn a lesson.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:06 am
In other words, give her enough rope and she will hang herself. I kind of got that impression, too. People are probably watching her right now and reporting to the DA. Either she has absolutely no remorse for what she has done, or she is really STUPID!!
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:09 am
I know for a fact that she doesn’t care what people think. She doesn’t care that according to public opinion, she should be put in jail. She doesn’t care that they will tell on her. It’s like she thinks that she is invincible.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:09 am
Honestly Lee, I chalk it up to the imperviousness of youth. She’s 19 and I bet anything she’s got a “it could happen to anyone BUT me” attitude about it, because let’s face it, we all did to some extent at her age, but she’s definitely making this BAD on herself. And if her mother’s NOT giving her that rope, and she’s just doing this out of neglect, then…I just will be speechless. The first thing I’d do with that young lady no matter her age, is tell her she’s on lock down, no going out, no -nothing-, and if she didn’t like that, well, she’s 19, and she’s old enough to get her own place. At least until she’s tossed back in jail. I’m expecting it. I really am. Her behavior is the behavior of someone with absolutely no empathy. Does she even care how her mother feels? It all seems so “oh well, it happened, I’m fine, so I’m going back to how things were.” of her.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:12 am
HAHA! you wrote that when I was writing this. Some kids really do think they’re invincible, and let’s face it, no matter her age, mentally she -is- a child. When we’re little, and I mean, toddlers, we’re very egocentric. We are the center of the universe. We don’t know any better. We haven’t learned empathy yet. It seems she never grew past that stage. It’s sad, and unfortunate, but she’s 19 and I doubt she’ll get any better at this point. Not until she hits rock bottom. And for her, it seems, that’s going to have to be jail. I’m not even sure that’s going to do it for her.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:17 am
You hit the nail on the head on that one. That last sentence is absolutely right. Brittany uses people’s love for her to manipulate them in to doing what she wants. That doesn’t mean that she returns that love. To the contraty, she just uses their love to get them to concede to her selfish needs such as staying out past curfew and going to parties.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:23 am
That sounds a lot like sociopathy. Has she been mentally evaluated yet? She sounds very…cold. We were all manipulative at some points of our life you have to agree Lee, but…at her age she’s taking it far too far.
I have to say that in some capacity I have a bit of blame for he rmother. There are things she could’ve done to prevent her child ending up like this. A tighter reign, or spending more time with her…I really don’t know because I don’t know the family situation. But there seems to have been a point when -someone- dropped the ball with her.
Of course at 19 it doesnt matter because right now she’s an adult and she’s responsible for herself, so don’t think I’m putting it off on the mom. This just makes me wonder, what with everything that’s happening.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:29 am
I know, I feel the same way. However, she is an adult, and, hopefully, everyone will not lose sight of this fact. It is apparent that this is a learned behavior. I am sure that she was not born this cold and calculating.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:32 am
Apparently she has used the “I’m just a child behavior” to avoid a lot of accountability in her life. Very clever girl.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:32 am
Apparently she has used the “I’m just a child behavior” to avoid a lot of accountability in her life. Very clever girl.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:33 am
Well she could’ve been but that’s extremely rare. I have to think it’s definitely an environmental thing.
Part of me hopes this whole “not caring” thing is just her being 19, and stubborn, and “not caring” because everyone is telling her she should.
I’m surprised people allow her to come drinking with them after all this. I suppose we’ll just have to see what happens. There really isn’t going to be a happy ending.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:34 am
Clever behavior…but behavior that isn’t going to last much longer. She’ll have to switch to “I’m just a girl, duh” at some point to continue it, and somehow I see her doing just that.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:34 am
You have to remember, birds of a feather flock together. She uses her friends, too. She is very convincing with her “feel sorry for me - I am just the victim” act.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:36 am
Bah, this is true. You sound like you know them all a little personally, Lee.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:38 am
Yes, I expect her to turn on her mother and the other girl’s mother like a vicious dog. It’s her only defense. The defense will counter with “She is not emotionally or mentally competent; therefore, she should not have been baby sitting”, which is probably somewhat true.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:41 am
I agree she never should have been babysitting. Never. She doesnt seem responsible enough -sober- to do that. At the same time I doubt her mother -ever0 thought something like this would happen, or she never would’ve let Brittany babysit. I honestly think had she been my daughter, I’d have stayed home with my child, and made Brittany do chores while hung over, but then I believe in working irresponsibility out of a child.
I expect her to turn on her mother and the other girl’s mother too, which is sad. It’s the only defense she has, and it will more than likely be used.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 11:45 am
It will have to be. She is pleading not guilty to all charges. This just goes to show you what type of person she is. She has to know that she is guilty. If something like this happened to me, I would have stood up before the judge and said I am guilty - do with me what you will. I deserve punishment. NOT HER, THOUGH.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:01 pm
The not guilty is definitely a problem. There’s a better plea she could’ve made. No contest for one. Refusing to admit guilt is not good, and it’s going to make it harder on her lawyer in the long run because it’s obvious she DID it, even if she didn’t mean to.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Anyone else would have been on suicide watch. Her attitude is “it happened - get over it - I did, and move on. I expect my life to take up where it left off”.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:11 pm
This is VERY true. Anyone else would be in a mental hospital at LEAST for evaluation after something like that happened to a family member, and if not that, there would’ve been SOME evaluation at some point anyway. Her flagrant disregard for her sister’s death, as it seems, speaks volumes.I’m not expecting weeping and teeth-gnashing, but some remorse. Some sadness. Something.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Want to see her cry? Tell her no. Tell her she can’t do something. Then you will see her cry. I expect that she will do a lot of crying in prison especially on visitation day. As far as I know, she hasn’t been evaluated, and I don’t know why. I guess this is because it is not needed by the defense, yet. If I were her parents, I would want her evaluated so that I could help her. However, I guess this would be difficult as she is responsible for the death of her sister. They may not want to be around her right now. I know that I would have a hard time with that especially when she doesn’t show any remorse. But, of course, she is an adult and can say “no”.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm
That’s true too. I somehow keep forgetting that she’s a legal 19 years old. Every time I read something about her, her mental age goes down a few years. Feels like we’re talking about a 12 year old at this point. *headshake* How long did you know her? I’m curious.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Actually, she is 20. I have known her for several years now. That’s all I am going to say because this is a public forum. I agree with you on the age thing. She does act like a twelve-year old. She is a twelve-year old with adult privileges and that is scary.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Gaaaaah that makes it even worse XD Twenty. My lord.
I kinda wish I could talk to you privately. You seem like a smart guy. Er. I assume you’re a guy anyway.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm
I was just thinking about the comment you made about an egocentric two-year old in regard to empathy. There are other things that two-year olds haven’t developed either such as moderation and boundaries. Just think what will happen when she turns 21. Should be interesting.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I don’t think it’ll be much different. She’s already drinking. I”m sure the only difference will be she can go to bars. That’s scary In and of itself I suppose, but not much different from her glugging it up with her friends now.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm
That’s funny (glugging it up). Yes, she has her parents fooled good and proper on that part. Or, if they know, they are just not admitting it to themselves. If she were my daughter, I would make her abide by her 11:00 curfew no matter how much she carried on. I would set rules for her and make her abide by them, not just because she is in trouble either, but out of respect for my household.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm
At twenty it really should be “obey my rules or get yourself a new place to live.” She’s old enough for a job, and an apartment or house of her own. Consequences for her actions should be starting at home, but they haven’t and that’s sad. Glugging it up. Yeah. ^_^ I tend to make up phrases XD
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm
That takes us back to the manipulating. She knows her parents on not going to kick her out because they love her. I imagine that she’s no fool, though. I am sure that she knows when to be careful so as to not lose her happy home.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm
And therein lies the problem. It’s not helping her. It’s allowing her to continue this life that she just -should not- be continuing. -That- fault lies with the parents. Love should not be blind. When it comes to children, sometimes it’s better to err on the side of strict. Not always of course, don’t get me wrong. But a child like her -needs- the discipline because she apparently cannot create her own.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm
What’s the matter Lee, did Brittany break up with you? Sounds as if you have a personal vendetta with this girl.
Mrs. Garda, don’t believe his crap.
I know Brittany too. How DARE YOU say that she feels no remorse? idiot. Brittany knows what she did was wrong…she is not the monster you little twits on here are making her out to be…
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Whatda, there’s no need to be rude about it.
I don’t know if she feels remorse or not, as I don’t know her personally. Since you do, IS she still drinking and carrying on in the fashion that led to those babies’ deaths? If so, then my point is valid.
Whether or not she feels remorse, she did something negligent that caused the death of two babies. Whether or not she’s sorry, she does need to pay for that. It’s not really a matter of her feelings.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm
To WHAT DA (shoud read What? Duh?):
She does, in fact, know what she did was wrong, but she doesn’t demonstrate any feeling at all, unless it involves trying to prove her innocence. I know her better than you do. You are the idiot!! We are not portraying her as a monster. Her own conduct is giving her away on that one. I don’t have a personal vendetta against this girl at all. I am just stating truthful observations. Yes, Mrs Garda, I am telling the truth.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm
If What?Duh? claims she is not drinking and staying out after curfew than What? Duh? is a liar.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm
In the long run I’m not the one who needs convinced, though for the record, as you’ve not said anything particularly hurtful (Ie you havent namecalled, nor really spoken in any way other than with detatched observation) I have to believe that you at the -least- believe what you are saying is true. I think What Da also believes what he/she says is true. It’s hard to believe badly of your friends, I know first hand. But really, I have to side a bit with Lee here. IF she hasn’t changed her habits, really, that speaks for itself.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Or maybe What? Duh? doesn’t know her as well as he/she indicates.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Could be. For all we know it’s Brittany herself. If she’s that manipulative, I wouldn’t put it past her. I cant look up IP’s though so I dunno. If not, it’s nice that she defends her friends. (or he/his) but it’s misplaced at the moment, mostly because as I said, we’re not the ones that need convinced, and her behavior speaks to the contrary.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I guess What Da has nothing to say on this matter.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Or else they’re typing up something very long. I almost hope for the Latter.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm
(laughing)
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Good to know I make you giggle lee XD
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm
It is the jury that she will have to convince, and it is sad to say that she has a very bad track record.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Mrs. Garda - I know Brittany’s parents well. Lee’s comments about Brittany not adhering to her stipulations on her release really upset me. “If she were my child yada yada”…Do you really think they are letting her out to roam the streets and drink every night??? I am certain that the D.A. on this case is paying close attention to her actions…if this were the case, she’d be in jail…so NO, Mrs. Garda - she is not.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Okay, what parents are you talking about? Do you know where Brittany is staying? I do. Are you privy to what goes on in their household? I think not.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I don’t know, WhatDa. They were certainly letting her do it before the tragedy and all I have is the past to go on, myself. As I said, I’m not there, I don’t know her, and I don’t know her parents. All I know is my own life and my own situation. Why would they have allowed their daughter out to do those things in the first place? She’s not legal drinking age, she’s not shown herself to be responsible (I’d bet before now there were signs of her being irresponsible, not coming home on time etc) and she has no reason in the -least- to be trusted out past a certain hour. Yet she was allowed out to do god knows what with god knows who, and then allowed, quite hung over, to look after two babies. I’m not blaming the parents, but they dont have a great track record here either, in my eyes. Then again, as I said, My own opinions don’t count for much. I’m not the one sentencing the girl to any time.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm
She stays with her father who just happens to work third shift - the perfect environment for her. When the cat is away, the mice will play.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Respectfully, What Da, If her father’s working third shift and her mother’s not in the house (as lee’s saying here I believe) then there’s no one around to report what she does to the DA and therefore yes, she could be going out. Are you home with her? I’m asking that in all seriousness. Do you know for a -fact- that she doesn’t go out, or are you just basing that on “well if she was the DA would know” as you seem to be doing. Please believe I’m asking you with all respect. I’m curious.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I doubt that he is “letting” her out to roam the streets every night. She is taking it upon herself to do this. Her parents do not know what goes on. They just give her the benefit of the doubt that she is being a good girl. Very sad.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm
I know exactly where she stays. If you know her so well, and are so confident about what you are saying, why don’t you give me your real name? Do you call yourself one of Brittany’s friends?
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Really now? I don’t think you know much of anything. Why don’t you give us your real name? Your the one stating that I am lying.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm
With all due respect, Mrs. Garda - I don’t believe that Lee is at home with her, either.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm
hey now. No one needs -any- real names. This is a public forum after all. What Da, does she stay with her father and does her father work third shift? I’m not asking if you know where she stays. I’m asking if you’re there to verify she doesnt leave.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm
my name is Julie Summerville, what is yours?
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Julie Summerville. I don’t recall that name ever being mentioned by anyone close to what is going on. By the way, I never claimed to be Brittany’s friend. I make better choices.
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm
No ma’am he isnt I’m sure, but he doesnt need to be. All he needs is to see her -out- doing what she’s always been doing. He doesn’t have to see her at home. Unfortunately your claims mean you -do-. You’d have to be in her home to see her there after all.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Out of curiousity here Lee, do you go out drinking with her??
Are you kidding me
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Chicken Lee?
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Julie Summerville is not a close acquaintance with anyone in Brittany’s current household. I know this for a fact.
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:29 pm
hmmm…not one of Brittany’s friends…SHOCKER
WHATDA
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Julie Summerville is not a close acquaintance with anyone in Brittany’s current household. I know this for a fact.
That shows just how much you don’t know.
Lee
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:30 pm
No, I don’t go out drinking with Brittany, and I am not intimidated by your blundering, stupid comments either for that matter. Do you go out drinking with her?
Mrs Garda
Apr 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm