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West Virginia torturer

by Trench on September 12th, 2007

Over at CrimeNe.ws I posted about the horrible story out of West Virginia about the black woman who was held captive and tortured by an obviously racist white family.

Thanks to LiLO I can now bring you the MySpace profiles of the youngest of the perpetrators Danny Combs. Not surprisingly Tom is his only friend. If Tom was black he probably wouldn’t even have him as a friend.

Tags: danny-combs, torture, west-virginia

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Sep 13, 2007 at 10:59 am

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BelchSpeak
Sep 13, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Hey Trench, if she knew the family was “obviously racist,” why did she keep banging Bobby Brewster?

The news outlets reveal today that Bobby and Megan were a couple with a history of violence altercations- which still didn’t keep her from coming back for more.

This was a bad situation, but the press is going gaga over this like it is the Duke Lacrosse case. And that makes me suspicious.
Madeline
Sep 13, 2007 at 3:03 pm

You must be kidding me with your comment about the Duke case? What the hell does that case have to do with it. Its shameful that some of you racist idiots only see a problem when a white woman or child has a issue or crime commited against them by a black perpatrator… I wonder if you would say the same thing if your WHITE sister was involved in a physically abusive relationship with a black man? NO you wouldn’t… you would be ready to hang yourself a n!@@a.
BelchSpeak
Sep 13, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Madeline, don’t call people racists without knowing the facts.

Megan Williams and Bobby Brewster were a couple. Boyfriend and girlfriend. They had tons of sex together too.

And Megan Williams liked Bobby enough to keep coming back to have sex with him, even though she knew that:

- Bobby lived in a disgusting trailer with his demented Mom.
- Bobby either lived with rats or kept rats as pets.
- Bobby had threatened to kill his own mother with a machete.
- Bobby’s mother had just been released from prison on a manslaughter rap of her own.
- Bobby was an abusive drunk.
- Bobby had already beaten her once in July and the incident involved the police.

So despite Megan Williams knowing this about her asshole of a boyfriend, she kept coming around to get some of his redneck lovin. And it seems like this last time he wouldn’t let her leave his trailer home.

I’m not saying Megan Williams deserved to have this incident happen to her. But she should hardly be surprised.

The reference to the Duke Lacrosse case is apt. The press loves a good hate-crime story and the Duke story fell through because it wasn’t a good hate crime.

Surely the press can make a huge hate crime story about a bunch of hicks living in a mobile home on a mountainside in West Virginia, right? But other than the whole inter-racial dating, I guess those folks are racist as hell? I don’t buy the hate crime angle, and I have suspicions that the story of torture is exaggerated.
Madeline
Sep 13, 2007 at 4:08 pm

I know the facts of the case and its apparent that you and soooo many other racist could careless about this situation. Ok, i don’t know you and i shouldn’t call you a racist; however, the reference to the duke case is another way of deflecting and a cheap shot against BLACK WOMEN. I agree that the media does look for nonsense instead of seeking justice; however, I honestly believe if she was a white woman you would be outraged and you would not refer to the duke case. So what if their home was disguesting, because hundreds of thousands of americans live the exact same way that does not make it OK to rape and abuse a HUMAN BEING! For any idiot curious about my nationality I am Italian american and Columbian, yet I am a woman and i know that this situation is not right! I feel like you are attempting to say that the victim was wrong for having a relationship with a disguesting piece of white trailer trash… She wasn’t wrong for that THEY WERE WRONG FOR RAPING AND TORTURING her for a prolong period of time. So don’t give me that crap about the duke case because those guys will be sitting on millions sooner than you can eat a cracker.
BelchSpeak
Sep 13, 2007 at 4:33 pm

“I feel like you are attempting to say that the victim was wrong for having a relationship with a disguesting piece of white trailer trash…”

Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Take race out of the equation. black or white, no self-respecting woman would put herself into a situation where she is dating a dangerous criminal in a disgusting home like that. You may not like to hear the truth, but if it was your daughter dating a scumbag like that, wouldn’t you do everything to stop her?

And if the woman was white, this story would not have the press coverage it is getting, which is my other point about the Duke case. Im not comparing the two cases to highlight that these two black women from both cases are stupid whores- I’m comparing them because the national news so badly wants to stir up racial hatred, and a good way to do that is to sensationalize what might be a hate crime.

The Duke case wasn’t a hate crime. They paid a fee to see a black woman do a show. If they were racist, they would have asked for white women. And this case is not a hate crime either because of the interracial dating aspect.

And I don’t believe the victim now completely, either. According to CNN, drugs were involved and Megan had a practice of disappearing for weeks at a time. She also asked to be driven to the trailer on the day, so she knew where she was going to and who she was going to see. I suspect she may have been there to pay off a drug debt.

It doesn’t make the violence right, but Megan is no angel.
Madeline
Sep 13, 2007 at 5:31 pm

What news station are you watching? Because every station I watch spotlight crimes against White people 24/7. What will you say next there is no WHITE HISTORY MONTH NO PARADE FOR WHITE PEOPLE??? Get over yourself and stop trying to place the VICTIM on the STAND…
As you stated, Meagan was no ANGEL;however, do you personally know her? Furthermore perhaps she was poor like the pink trailer trash that you speak of and she just didn’t know any better at any rate despite the conditions in which those people lived in and despite the fact that she decided to deal with trash it DOES NOT MAKE ANY OF THIS RIGHT. I’M BEGINNING to believe that Charles Manson was right about the impending race war because many inbred idiots have been taught the SINS of their FATHERS or shall I say forefathers. Your case is weak BLEAK and could easily be torn apart if I felt you made A valid opinion and you know what they say about opinions, don’t you?
Madeline
Sep 13, 2007 at 5:43 pm

And another thing… I believe those duke boys did rape that entertainer. I believe everything was swept under the rug and one of the rich boys parents dangeled’ some cash in her face to change her story and she gladly obliged them. White men have been raping black women WOMEN for years and getting away with it all over a $$$$ This could have been anyone white or black; however, a bunch of WHITE boys wanted a black entertainer because they know that society devalues blacks. Come on if i was a white RICH COLLEGE RAPIST, i would find a britney spears look alike. LMAO
Seriously all of this is OUTRAGEOUS and I am very angry that something like this could happen in the LAND OF THE FREE and home of the COWARD… I mean brave. At any rate I’m waiting for all the details to unfold before I jump on anyone’s DUKE bandwagon.
BelchSpeak
Sep 13, 2007 at 5:53 pm

You have certainly become unhinged. I never said that what they did was okay- I question whether or not all of what was reported to happen was true.

And if you believe that the woman in the Duke case really was raped, you are a crackpot.
Madeline
Sep 13, 2007 at 7:03 pm

Name calling doesn’t make you win your argument bleach it only makes you Ignorant. Back to the subject because once again you want to deflect with the Duke case. This young lady deserves the nations sympathy and not IT’S judgemental racist sitting behind the safety of their computer masturbating to porn… I may be a crackpot but at least I’m not a racist cracker justifying rape.
Alyric
Sep 13, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Name calling doesn’t make you win your argument bleach it only makes you Ignorant.

Funny, might be wise to take some of your own advice. And check the blood pressure medication while you’re at it. Belch made some good points - I’m not certain whether or not he’s correct, but then I don’t have first hand knowledge of the case.

Nobody deserves what happened to this woman. But she placed herself in the situation. She is directly responsible for putting herself in harm’s way.

Notice that’s not the same as blaming her for what happened.

Oh, and by the way, the only one to come across as racist in this thread is you.
kim
Sep 14, 2007 at 11:07 pm

This is pretty sad! This crime could’ve happened to anyone’s child. It’s sad that there’s still people like this in the world. Now they’ll end up in prison living off of tax payer dollars.
kim
Sep 14, 2007 at 11:12 pm

What these people did to this girl is revolting. I wouldn’t be surprised if the WV 6 are drug users. They look sick. They should be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan as a punishment.
Trench
Sep 14, 2007 at 11:15 pm

Now they’ll end up in prison living off of tax payer dollars.

Something tells me they were already living off of taxpayer money. I have no problem with my tax dollars going to keep scumbags like this behind bars.
MaiKayla
Sep 16, 2007 at 1:33 am

Um! 4get the Duke Case or whatever! If this was a white girl getting tortured and all by some black folks…This story would be world wide man! Its so sad to see how people are such hypocrites! “O I LOVE GOD AND I FOLLOW HIS EVERY WORDS” man f dat…u dont follow nothing cuz if u did u wouldnt do such a thing to a human being! Get off of MICHEAL VICK ASS AND TALK ABOUT THIS! THIS IS WAY MORE SERIOUS THAN SUM FUCKIN DOGS!! DAMN PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID
Ty
Sep 16, 2007 at 11:35 pm

This country is turned into the worst place on earth to live. I would rather live in a country turned upside down by war than to live in a country where there is such hate as this. All over W. Virginia and other parts of the south fly confederate flags and signs that say the south shall rise again. Rise again & do what. Bring back slavery. It’s not surprising that U. S. is hated around the world. Look at how we treat each other. GOD HAVE MERCY ON THIS COUNTRY
Ty
Sep 16, 2007 at 11:47 pm

One day this country will wake up and realize that with all the issues we have to overcome it is a waste of time to spend your life hating anyone because of the color of their skin.
BelchSpeak
Sep 17, 2007 at 12:19 am

Turned into the worst place to live? Ty, when do you think it got that way? When do you think it was the best or a better place to live if you think it is so bad now?

And I have seen the photos of the crime scene. There were no confederate flags either. And west virginia was on the North’s side in the Civil War. And despite your fears, no one is trying to bring back slavery.
Ty
Sep 17, 2007 at 1:34 am

I’m not sure when the last time in were in W. Virginia was but I was there yesterday and I couldn’t go five miles without seeing a confederate flag. So the photos of the crime scene don’t have to have one in them. And a history lesson for you. West Virginia was one of the Civil War Border states along w/ Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri which were slave states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Freeandslavestates.gif
BelchSpeak
Sep 17, 2007 at 10:46 am

So what about the border states? At the time of the Civil War, slavery was outlawed in those states. At one time, New York City had slaves.

No one is going to bring slavery back except for Muslims, who are the only people who still openly practice it today.

You still haven’t said when you think the US turned into such a bad place to live that you would rather live in Somalia, Iraq, or the Sudan.
Ty
Sep 18, 2007 at 12:50 am

When did it turn in to such a bad place? Maybe it was in 1617 when the settlers returned here and stole this country from the Indians. Or maybe it was when millions of Africans were being killed and enslaved and having there families torn ripped apart. No, maybe it was when the KKK was lynching, raping, and beating African Americans. Maybe it was during the 60’s when African Americans could not use the same bathrooms as Caucasians. Maybe it was when M. L. K. Jr., Malcolm X, or J. F. K. was killed. Maybe it was when money became more important than peace. “Money trumps peace” says president bush. Or maybe it was when videos turned to soft porn. Maybe it was when drugs on our streets became acceptable. Or maybe it was when it was okay to steal an election. Or maybe it was when the government which is supposed to represent the people became more concerned with pleasing big business. No, I think it was when folks like you think that because a rape victim had a relationship with the person who raped her she put her self in the position to have it happen to her. Need I say more? I think not. Say what you want. The majority of Americans don’t care about how many people go hungry each day, what going on in Washington, how many people in this country die from AIDS, or about an African American women who gets rape and tortured by six Caucasians who will get less time in jail than a high school student who gets in to fight and you sound like one of them. Is this a place for me? I think not. But you on the other hand probably love it. Enjoy and have a nice life.
BelchSpeak
Sep 18, 2007 at 9:54 am

Oh, so you are one of those hate america anti-Bush whackjobs. Thanks for clarifying that.

USA is the best country in the world to live in. Good luck to you when you move to Darfur. That’s where millions of blacks are being slaughtered. And AIDS strains that are incurable are ravaging the population.
Trench
Sep 18, 2007 at 10:14 am

I was going to say that someone has liberal guilt issues.
Ty
Sep 19, 2007 at 12:11 am

In 2001, HIV was the third leading cause of death among African Americans between ages 25 and 34. Among African American females in this age group, HIV was the number one cause of death. But the folks in Washington aren’t running any ad campaigns to address this but millions are being spent on presidential election. Why you ask, because no one in Washington cares. So I don’t have to go to Darfur to worry about AIDS. Your noble president bush was so concerned about the people in Iraq and the quality of life for them that he went on a witch hunt for Saddam but he has done nothing of any significance to help the people of Darfur. Maybe the lives of Africans don’t count for much or at least to him. But keep your blinders on. I promise things are going to get better. LOL
Ty
Sep 19, 2007 at 12:14 am

People like you are so clueless that it’s scary.
BelchSpeak
Sep 19, 2007 at 12:47 am

Ty, you are an ignorant, uneducated asshole who has no idea what you are talking about. President Bush has spent more money fighting AIDS in Africa than all of the rest of the world combined in the history of mankind.

Democrats are the ones that abandon blacks to their deaths because when they die, they don’t contribute to global warming. Al Gore wants to fight global warming, but wont let African nations have electricity to keep AIDS vaccines and medicines cold.

http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/12/01/world-aids-day/
BelchSpeak
Sep 19, 2007 at 12:17 pm

Finally there is more news out about this case. All 6 are now charged with kidnapping, and the charges against them look rather solid at this point. The sicko mom even confessed to forcing Megan Williams to have oral sex.

On the flip side, a big surprise (not) is that the victim is a wanted felon. She was forging checks across three counties. Does check fraud make her a liar? So she was hiding from police too. Good thing the cops found her in that den of thieves and murderers when they did or she would have been the next victim.

Also, it seems she was beaten with sticks and fly swatters.
BelchSpeak
Sep 19, 2007 at 12:17 pm

link here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070919/ap_on_re_us/woman_tortured
Ty
Sep 19, 2007 at 4:36 pm

I am going to pray for you and I hope you wake up one day soon. God Bless.
BelchSpeak
Sep 19, 2007 at 4:43 pm

Thank You, come again.
R. Brewster
Sep 19, 2007 at 8:44 pm

What they are accused of is a crime. White or black they will be judged as the government deems fit. No one should be held against their will for any reason or cause by a private citizen. The race card has been overplayed, its time to judge on merit. Let the court do its job. The media thrives on sensationalism, read it and believe 10% of what you just read, the difficult part is knowing what to believe…
Alicia
Sep 21, 2007 at 3:16 pm

Further research will show that the girl is mentally impaired. Though not severely retarded, her impairment could cause her to lack judgement as far as the character of her acquaintances. That is neither here nor there when you look at the reality of what happened. Whether she was of sound mind or retarded, black or white, this should not have happened.
Alicia
Sep 21, 2007 at 3:19 pm

I also believe that the race card is being played a little too strongly. If you look at the background of the suspects, you will see that they have been trying to kill each other for years now. Whether or not they are racist is a matter of opinion…but I do know they are crazy…thats a fact!
BelchSpeak
Sep 21, 2007 at 3:27 pm

Alicia,
I disagree with your assessment that her lack of judgement of peoples’ character was due to some type of mental defect. While her transcripts of her account of the crime show a clear lack of education, she was smart enough to run a check-forging racket and elude police for several months.

And I completely agree with you on the race card angle. This Brewster clan was a ticking time bomb and they were bound to attempt murder again.
Mrs. Optimus
Sep 21, 2007 at 4:59 pm

Hey Belch! If you came to my home and then I decided to piss and shit in your mouth would you like it? If I spit racial slurs at you and cut you and raped you would that be your fault? Then all of my friends could dance around you and sing “YOU HAD IT COMING”. How in the hell is a person to know that they are going to be raped and tortured????? Please F-ING explain! Yes, I’m mad! You have the nerve to blame a victim! I hope nothing bad like this happens to you or anyone in your family but if it does always remember what you said on this site!!! They called her a nigger and said they hated Black people! HELLO! Wake Up!

Don’t bring up her past it has nothing to do with what happened to her! You are gross!! Are you the Grand Dragon??
Alicia
Sep 21, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Brewster,
The idea of her being mentally challenged did not come from a deduction of my own. The girl’s father says that she is mentally challenged. Also when members of her church were asked the kind of girl she was they said they didn’t know her. Her mother was very protective of her, so they were not able to really get to know her.

Also, I know alot of people who are mentally challenged but they are still able to function in society. However, they need help in certain areas…judgement being a big one.
BelchSpeak
Sep 21, 2007 at 5:51 pm

No, if you go back and read it, it says that her father said that Megan took some special education classes. He does not say that she is mentally deficient. And she was too busy stealing money from peoples’ bank accounts by writing bad checks to show up at church.

Mrs. Optimus, your insanity you are spouting about wanting to assault me would never happen because I don’t put myself in situations that would allow that to happen to me. Megan Williams is a thief and was hanging around other known theives, including two murderers. After having been beaten by Bobby Brewster to the point that police were called, she went back to him again, and this time he locked her in the shed.

I am not saying she deserved to be assaulted. But she made some poor decisions that had dire consequences.
Trench
Sep 21, 2007 at 8:03 pm

Actually I’ve also read that she was determined to be mentally handicapped in some way. The extent of that I’m not sure.
BelchSpeak
Sep 21, 2007 at 10:40 pm

I have not seen that at all. Her father said she took special education classes.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008493955

Her mom claimed she had ADHD here:
http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/2007091271/Mother-says-Logan-abuse-victim-didnt-know-her-alleged-tormentors/

But her mom also claimed that Megan told her that she didn’t know her assailants, which is not accurate.

If you guys have links to facts that state something more severe than ADHD, I’d like to see it.
Kelly
Sep 22, 2007 at 1:41 am

MaiKayla:

You stated oh so eloquently: “If this was a white girl getting tortured and all by some black folks…This story would be world wide man!”

I ask if you are familiar with the “worldwide” coverage on this story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp

A white girl and her boyfriend were raped, tortured and killed by a group of African Americans. I highly doubt you or anyone on this thread heard about this story as it was not, as you claim, broadcasted worldwide. Your comments are racist and offensive.

Aside from that, your rant regarding Michael Vick is ignorant not to mention irrelevant to the current topic at hand.

Belch: I think I love you.
Mrs. Optimus
Sep 25, 2007 at 10:35 am

Belch, please! I didn’t say I wanted to assault you! Stop making stuff up! I don’t care if she went back. It’s not her fault. Simple as that. You are inferring that it is her fault. The people that made the bad decisions were the people that shit on her.
Mrs. Optimus
Sep 25, 2007 at 10:38 am

Kelly - You are so ridiculously BURNT!
BelchSpeak
Sep 25, 2007 at 11:02 am

Optimus,

I am not “inferring” anything. Besides, I could only imply, it is up to you to infer. But I have said quite plainly and in English, that she did not deserve to be assaulted. Got it this time? Reread it again just to let it sink in.

Now fill in this blank:
“It sure was _________ of Megan Williams to return to her boyfriend’s trailer for sex and drugs after her boyfriend beat her up the last time.”
Mrs. Optimus
Sep 25, 2007 at 1:31 pm

OK! Professor!!

Whatever works for you Kemo Sabe!
Ty
Sep 26, 2007 at 12:21 am

This message is to all the people out who have a reasonable amount of common sense. That would exclude you belchspeak so please don’t responded. Thanks. This guy says he disagrees with your assessment that her lack of judgement of peoples’ character was due to some type of mental defect. I wonder what university he graduated from with a degree in anything related to or having anything to do with the study of mental health. I wonder if he even graduated from igh school. He also says he completely agrees with Alicia regarding the race card angle. He sounds like one of those folks who thinks African Americans should let go of the pain and the hurt caused by the injustices forced upon them over the cource of the last four hundred years. It’s funny how no one thinks the Jews should let go of what happened to them inspite of the fact that what African Americans went thru was ten times worse and they are still going thru it til this very day. Things like not being promoted at the same pace as their counterparts, as seen in the case againt Walgreen Co. who is being sued by the EEOC. Or the case of Amadou Diallo who was shot 41 times by four of NYPD’s funniest, I mean finniest Sean Carroll, Richard Murphy, Edward McMellon and Kenneth Boss. In the early morning of February 4th Diallo was standing near his building after returning from a meal. Police officers Edward McMellon, Sean Carroll, Kenneth Boss and Richard Murphy passed by in a Ford Taurus when they thought Diallo matched the description of a (since-captured) serial rapist and approached him. The officers were in plain clothes. The officers claimed that they loudly identified themselves as NYPD officers and that Diallo ran up the outside steps toward his apartment house doorway at their approach, ignoring their orders to stop and “show his hands.” As the suspect reached into his jacket, Carroll believed Diallo was drawing a firearm and yelled “Gun!” to alert his colleagues. The officers opened fire on Diallo and during the burst McMellon fell down the steps, appearing to be shot. The four officers fired forty-one shots, hitting Diallo nineteen times. Investigation found no weapons on Diallo’s body; the item he had pulled out of his jacket was not a gun, but a wallet. No reports of white men being shot 41 times by criminals, I mean cops are coming out. Or like the case where senior executives at Texaco were caught on tape making all kinds of racist remarks and plotting to destroy documents subpoenaed in a federal discrimination case. I could go on forever. Belchspeak will never understand this and all the folks like him will never understand. Anyone who attempts to get this across to him is wasting their time. The world is full of his kind and unfortunately that will always be the case
BelchSpeak
Sep 26, 2007 at 10:32 am

You know Ty, I have been attempting to point out that Megan Williams should be judged by the content of her character, not the color of her skin. (Gee, who said that?)

She is a woman actively engaged in a criminal enterprise who was having a sexual relationship with a man whose family were murderers.

However, you keep trying to bring skin color back into this. You seem obsessed with skin color.

You say that there is “my kind?” So I guess therefore, there is a “Your kind” too? That sounds like a racist statement to me.

And don’t try to compare the plight of blacks in the USA to the holocaust, Ty. That’s also racist and seriously disrespectful to a group of people who were targeted for extermination. Blacks in the USA have never experienced that level of disrespect.
Ty
Sep 27, 2007 at 2:03 am

#1 Your kind are the stupid ignorant folks out there that can’t see the light of day because of the size of their own heads. Like you. #2 Millions of African Americans died before they even got to the shores of this country. Part of the problem is that this country can’t punish or take action against itself like it did the Nazis or Saddam Hussin. If it did the same thing to itself that it does around the world it would have to strip all the companies that benefited from slavery of their billions. And the folks running this so called great country are the descendant of the folks who were responsible for slavery. That is what they did to anyone who benefited from the holocaust. I guess it is okay to kill millions of Africans and enslave them, broke up their families, whip, hang, rape, oppress, and discriminate against them for hundeds of years. I guess that is not as bad as the holocaust and it is disrespectly to think that it is. What ever . # 3 I’m not stuck on race but I have to wonder if she was a different race would you be so hell bent on smearing her name. I’m not sure as to why you are so hell bent on tarnishing her name. So what she wrote bad checks. Half of America has written a bad check. If writting bad checks was the worst crime committed in this country it would be a much better place to live. She will have to answer for those crimes just as anyone would, but I still don’t understand why that is an issue when talking about the horrific crimes that were commited aganist her. If you put as much energy into trying to helping folks like her as you do into trying to smear her name in mud you might just be able to save the world. Just because she went back to someone who beat her doesn’t mean she deserves to have what happen to her happen but in your mind it probably does. Why even talk about what she did in the same conversation as one discussing what was done to her. What are you really trying to say? Don’t try to spit in my face and tell me it’s raining. You say color it not an issues here but I think it is. Just be man enough to say what it is you really want to say. Just go away please. Go to church. Do something positive with your life. It’s not to late.
BelchSpeak
Sep 27, 2007 at 10:32 am

African Americans died before they were Americans? That makes no sense, Ty. And it wasn’t millions, either. And white people didn’t capture blacks in Africa and drag them over here- they were rounded up by Muslims as part of their conquest of Africa.

You weren’t a slave and neither were anyone alive in your family. And slavery has no bearing on the topic of Megan Williams.

I am not smearing her name. I am pointing out facts. She didn’t just bounce a check for groceries, Ty. She was stealing checks and cashing them in three different counties. If pointing out that her behavior in the past was criminal is “smearing” then the only person smearing her “good name” is Megan Williams.

And Ty, I said it to Optimus, so I will say it again to you, so try to read this:

I have said quite plainly and in English, that she did not deserve to be assaulted. Got it this time? Reread it again just to let it sink in.

Did you get your plane ticket to the Sudan yet? I thought you hated this country, why are you still here?
Ty
Sep 28, 2007 at 12:52 am

So what She was stealing checks and cashing them in three different counties. You still have not explained why you feel the need to make that fact known about a rape victim. Like I said before, it sounds like you are trying to say something other than what you are saying. Why? WHY? Why is it important to state the fact that she was stealing checks and cashing them in three different counties. She was treated like an animal. Is it more important that she stole checks? Is it that a more severe crime when compared to what was done to her? Everyone is up in arms over what Vick is suppose to have done to those dogs but those same folks have nothing to say about this. Hum, what is wrong with this picture? People care more about dogs than they do other people. People like you. It is funny how you pick the things in my comments you want to reply to and ignore the rest. You’re funny. Like I say before in plain English, if you put as much time and energy into doing something positive you might be able to change the WORLD yes the world. Do something good. Get of the negative. Don’t live your entire life looking for negativity. You’ve spent enough time doing that. And again in plain English, why do you feel the need to make sure the world knows she stole checks when discussing what happened to her? Why is that important? I look reading your response. It’s going to be fun reading how you try to explain why it is important. I think you are going to show the world just how (fill in the blank) you are. In PLAIN ENGLISH. Mr. Righteous.
Ty
Sep 28, 2007 at 1:00 am

And you say “Ty, you are an ignorant”. I guess I am because I just can’t see why that is not important when talking about what happen to her and that fact that they were probably going to kill her. They sure weren’t going to let her going so she could go to the police. Yeah, I’m ignorant. But I wonder what peolpe would call you.
Ty
Sep 28, 2007 at 1:44 am

And your right. Caucasians didn’t capture blacks in Africa and drag them over here. They were just the ones who beat, raped tortured, enslaved, and did all the other wonderful thing to them that they did. And your also right about the fact that I wasn’t a slave and neither was anyone who is alive in my family. But I definitely had family members who are not ALIVE that were slaves. MY FAMILY MEMBERS who were Beat, raped, tortured, enslaved, forced for generations to work for nothing to build this so called great nation and many of the large companies that still exist to this day and got nothing for it. Criminal enterprise. No they aren’t ALIVE as you pointed out but they were my family members and I will never forget that. And slavery does have a bearing on the topic of Megan Williams when those who did this to her say “This is how we treat blacks”. And no I haven’t left yet. I’m hoping that your kind, the ignorant, uneducated assholes leave. I’ll buy you a boat so you can go back to where you came from. As they say to us. What do you have to say to that Mr. Righteous?
David
Sep 28, 2007 at 9:08 am

Ty you are ignorant. These days there are more black on white race related crimes then ever before. But African Americans don’t see that a racist do you? Africans try to play the race card every chance they get, and it is sick and pathetic. Why is there a college for black people and a million groups and organizations. Yet if a white guy does the same thing he is the racist one not you. Well that is sickening and I think you just need to deal with the fact we are all in this country together, and not everything is motivated by race, although it seems every time an African American is charged with something its a hate crime. GROW UP ALL OF YOU ESPECIALLY YOU TY. I might not have had ancestors who where slaves, but i did have some that fought for your freedom, and died for it. was it worth it? I think not, if little kids like Ty go around and give blacks a bad name. People are sick of others who use race as an excuse for anything, it is 2007. And BelchSpeak is right, it wasn’t the white man who first captured africans and sold the as slaves. GET OVER YOURSELF TY. you are nothing special, your race is nothing special. And is it surprising the first person to say something about racism is an african american. You think everything that happens is racially motivated. Well i got some news it isn’t. You are sickening Ty
BelchSpeak
Sep 28, 2007 at 10:52 am

Regarding why I point out that Megan Williams was an active criminal? Why is it important to you that this fact remain a secret? Because if its a secret, it makes it easier to race-bait and it helps your cause? Or by me pointing out the fact, I make it possible that this was not a hate crime, which you seem so desperately to want it to be?
BelchSpeak
Sep 28, 2007 at 3:15 pm

Ty,
Since you seem to be lacking in education about the truths surrounding slavery, here, read this.

You’re welcome.
http://tinyurl.com/25bm7z
Ty
Sep 29, 2007 at 1:02 am

So she stole check and that automatically makes it not a hate crime. That makes perfect sense. Like I said, it was funny to see you try to explain why it’s so important to let the world know that she stole check. Why are there colleges for African Americans and a million groups and organizations you ask? Why are there Jewish community centers and a million groups and organizations? Why are there Italian American Organizations, and organizations for every other group in America? But I guess it’s not okay for African American to do the same thing. No, I guess not. Yeah we are all in this country together but we all aren’t treated equally. And my ancestors were fighting right along side of everyone else for that same freedom. But who was fighting along side us for our freedom. Were your ancestors fighting for equality in the 50’s and 60’s with us? I guess our freedom wasn’t worth as you say. We don’t deserve to be free or to be treated equally. Your right, it wasn’t worth it. And what I’m I using race as an excuse for? I have my own company, I didn’t let race stop me. So what am I using race as an excuse for? Six caucasian beat, turtured, and raped this girl and told her “THIS IS WHAT WE DO TO BLACKS” and that wasn’t racially motivated because it’s 2007. Your right again. In the face of threatened boycotts from civil-rights groups, Texaco settled the discrimination suit for some $176 million. Texaco agreed to pay $115 million to current and former employees covered by the suit, along with a one-time salary increase of about 11 percent, or about $26 million for current employees. The oil giant will also spend $35 million on diversity training and sensitivity programs. “Winn-Dixie Stores – $33 million; Shoney’s Shoney’s - $132.5 million; Texaco - $176.1 million and Coca-Cola - $192.5 million. No, those aren’t the latest quarterly earnings of some of America’s best-known companies. It’s the amount of money each firm has paid in recent years to settle complaints of racial discrimination”. In a lawsuit against the national largest drug store chain; Walgreen is said have assigned black managers, management trainees and pharmacists to low-performing stores and to stores in black communities, and that it denies them promotions based on race.
“Black managers are assigned to stores in black neighborhoods more often than one would expect, and black employees are not being promoted to management and within management as often as similar white employees,” EEOC regional attorney Robert Johnson said in St. Louis. But none of this is RACIALLY MOTIVATED. African American should fell right at home here. We should feel like this is the best place on earth to live. Sorry for getting it twisted. You guy have set me straight. Thnks a bunch. I’m going to go to bed and forget all about all of this racism stuff. I fell so much better now that I know the truth. You guys are the greatest. Thnks again.
Ty
Sep 29, 2007 at 1:05 am

CLOWNS.
Ty
Sep 29, 2007 at 1:06 am

I done.
Ty
Sep 29, 2007 at 1:06 am

I’m done
BelchSpeak
Sep 30, 2007 at 12:12 am

I’m not done yet. You know with that long list of discrimination suits, I guess black organizations have really perfected the “shake down.”

And you probably think something like this is a stupid hate crime too:
http://kstp.com/article/stories/S206870.shtml?cat=118
SeoulGirl
Oct 1, 2007 at 11:42 am

BelchSpeak:
That tiny url was really a good article. I will post again, hopefully ppl on this thread will read it,it was very informative:

http://tinyurl.com/25bm7z

I understand what both you and Ty are saying and a lot of times these kind of conversations become so very heated bc of stereo-typing and the one person not fully understanding the other, and vice versa.

Ty, the reason ppl get tired of hearing about the “race card” is bc the younger generation of white ppl in American culture do not feel that they are responsible for what happened in American culture 150yrs. ago. They are 16, 22, 35, 55 and up. Maybe some of their ancestors were slave owners in the south but that is not who THEY are, that does not mean THEY agree with it. Don’t forget there were many white ppl who supported civil rights and got their fair share of beatings and being labeled outcasts in their own families.

It appears, I don’t want to generalize, that when SOME African Americans get into the race conversation they want to blame white ppl of today’s culture for what happened to their ancestors. That is why you hear the all-to-familiar “get over it, that was 100yrs. ago” from younger white ppl bc they feel that it is not their fault and why does the same song keep being sung when it’s not their genre.

Yes Ty, you are right, there is racism towards AA that perpetuate a violent-wonna-live-a-thug-life, where-is-my-hand-out, I-got-4-babies-Momma’s-waitin-on-me type of mentality. And this is the side the media portrays bc it is DRAMA…it feeds the American obsession of tragedy TV and tragedy lifestyle…

But not ALL AA are like that and neither are all white ppl racists if they don’t holler and scream that WVA was a hate crime issue. Belch looks at it as Megan was not the glowing pearl white victim….she hung with the big dogs…and they turned on her.

There are plenty of very educated AA and many many AA that have made invaluable contributions and/or inventions to American society, think: the Buffalo Soldiers, Tuskegee Airmen, Alexander Miles (invented the elevator)G.F. Grant(Golf Tee) the Stop Light(Garrett Morgan)..the list goes on.
Where would we be in modern society w/o some of these inventions? These ppl ROSE above their circumstances(it was a lot harder then then it is is now!!!!!)But…I digress..

See some white ppl have a different mind set than some AA’s do. Some AA consider themselves family, brothers, sisters, etc..even if they don’t know each other. White ppl don’t. If a white person is acting stupid and robbing a bank I’m not gonna cover for you or turn my head just bc the person is white. I’m gonna tell the cops every detail I know. If I live in a crime riddled commuinity and my kids are accosted everyday by drug dealers and thugs…I’M NOT STAYING..!!!!

Ty you said you have a business, that’s great, not many ppl can say that , of any race. You are doing something with you life that will hopefully impact your family and community in a positive way. Well, while you are being positive try to take that and start to look at white ppl differently. You have been sold an opinion and mindset that the whiteman is holding everyone down….I don’t see the AA women being held down. AA women are taking a stand and fighting for what they want in their lives and the quality of life they want to have regardless of what their own race is saying about them(think gangster rap, hip-hop).

I noticed you said all the “white” corporations had made all their millions on slave money. How are all the ganster rap and hip-hop conglomerations making all their money? Where is there positive message to their community? Who’s buying all this black culture music? Why is the music about raping women, doing drugs, getting all the money they can, and misogyny…just downing AA women in every song….and their are dumb white women who allow that mess too(I have NO TIME for them)…..

IMO we all have a lot of work to do in our own races and cultures, no matter what color you are.
IMO ranting about whose fault it is is falling on deaf ears….RESULTS is what shuts ppl up.

The point with Bobby and Megan is that he is white and she is black and they were both two consenting adults in the past. THen one day, it all turned the corner. Obviously he and his family are crazy murderers and she should have disconnected from them when she read the writing on the wall a long time ago.

She was victimized and they’ll be found guilty and get everything they deserve and hopefully more…but if you want to keep her a victim I suggest not bringing in Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson bc then all her dirty laundry will be on display and then surely this will become racial and the media will have gotten just what they wanted, ratings.
BelchSpeak
Oct 1, 2007 at 12:37 pm

Seoul Girl,

That was so well written and has a clarity that I could not convey. Thanks for adding to the discussion.