Mercades Nichols arrested again
Girl In Taped Beating Case Arrested Again:
Mercades Nichols, she of the Victoria Lindsay beating, has been arrested once again for charges not related to the beating.
Sometime between Oct. 31 and March 28, Nichols stalked and threatened the victim online and in person, even when Nichols was aware that an injunction had been placed against her, Wood said.
“She harassed, cyber-stalked and placed the victim in fear,” Wood said, reading from the arrest warrant.
The victim is said to be Nichols’ ex-boyfriend.
She’s being held without bond.
Tags: beating, Mercades Nichols, MySpace, stalking, Victoria Lindsay
212 opinions for Mercades Nichols arrested again
John
Aug 7, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Figures. That’s all I have to say.
Laurie
Aug 7, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Wow. Now that she is where she belongs, lets hope she doesn’t get out. I have genuine concerns that this will not stop with just threats or beating on girls….
Mrs Garda
Aug 8, 2008 at 4:27 am
Hmmmm. I wonder how many people will come out of the woodworks defending her this time. Let’s sit and watch, shall we? The girl OBVIOUSLY has mental problems.
Mrs Garda
Aug 8, 2008 at 4:28 am
Oh and. She’s definitely where she belongs.
jade
Aug 8, 2008 at 6:47 am
i wonder if her parents still think she’s all sweetness and light?
Mrs Garda
Aug 8, 2008 at 7:50 am
But sweetness and light always attacks people that’ve wronged it! *shifty eyes* Remember. The lord thy god said “thou shalt slappeth the bitch that disseth thou on thy webspace.”
Chicken Soup For The Terrorist Soul
Aug 8, 2008 at 9:31 am
If you like bigots, batters, and bullies, you’ll love the criminally incompetent parents who teach them how to behave.
Amyv
Aug 8, 2008 at 9:31 am
Mrs Garda - she already has people coming to her defense on other blogs. Ex: the ledger blogers. Hate to be proven wrong. Even if this incident was prior to the beating, it shows a pattern of violent behavior. And cyber bullying isn’t that why they beat up Victoria. Well I guess her mother who stated “Victoria was threatening these girls she should have been ready to back up her words.” Well her own daughter is backing up her words by being held in jail with no bond. Society can rest a little easier. Love your quote.
Wonder how that law suit against the sheriff is working for them now? Laurie - I think this pertains to a former boyfriend. I guess we will get further info.
Amyv
Aug 8, 2008 at 9:46 am
Wow. Read more about this. She stabbed the boyfriend with a pencil. Threatened to have him jumped after school by a group of boys. What is it with this jumping and beating up people with a crowd to help you. This girl is a mess. She is dangerous to society. Although she seems to like to encourage others to do the beatings for her. Ex: She never Hit Victoria. So a bad ass in cowards clothing. And surprise, surprise after he filed an injunction against her for fear for his safety another familiar name comes in to place. Little Miss Pink Pants, Brittini Hardcastle delivers a Valentines gift to him from Mercades. B.H. involved in this as well. Hurry up with the courst cases already and put that one behind bars as quick as you can to.
BW
Aug 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Garcia said the stalking case against her daughter was closed and feels the arrest was in retaliation because of her intent to sue the agency.
“This screams retaliation,” Garcia said Thursday of her daughter’s arrest. “I will not allow them to do this to my daughter.”
So yes, the parents still think she’s all sweetness and light.
Mrs Garda
Aug 8, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Pft. of course shes sweetness and light. Because. You know. She’s not violent at all.
Good god I hope I am never like these parents…
Scott
Aug 8, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I hope Mercades gets the counseling she needs now that she’s back in jail. And she could be in jail until the trial is over.
I don’t think Dr. Phil will bail her out of jail this time.
Chicken Soup For The Terrorist Soul
Aug 8, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Dr. Phil is a boob.
Amyv
Aug 8, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Mercades mother is a nut. She sees the money she was hoping to get slipping from her fingers. Of course their are still “some people” who actually believe it is all the sheriff’s fault but, they look more ridiculous by the minute. Sorry Garcia your daughter did this to herself. Even if it happened before the beat down. What goes around comes around.
Navigator
Aug 8, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Amyv… Yeah, I have read the Ledger Blogs. Some people just want to defend this girl to the end… makes me sick. Some are saying “oh, it is going to ruin her life” PLEASE! What about the lives that this girl has ruined… what about the torment that Tori will have to go through forever. Or what about the effect Mercedes actions has had upon this ex boyfriend and any relationship he has in the future. These 2 lives have been changed forever and all these people want to worry about is HER future and how HER future will be effected by “getting in trouble” and that her options will be limited now in HER future because of these 2 arrest. Makes me sick to my stomach. These simple minded people are the reason why our country is in the state it is in with all our violence. Defend the criminal and prosecute the victim! Let them back out on the street so they can do it again and get away with it again …. because no one wants to gather the BALLS to give these criminals the HARD TIME they deserve any more!! SC*** political correctness man… desperate times call for desperate measures…
Garland
Aug 8, 2008 at 11:13 pm
It’s no surprise, Amy & Navigator, & I agree with everything that both of you have said. There are some people from The Ledger that think that the girls should get away for what they did to Victoria, like Jack for instance. It’s craziness.
I wonder if Dr. Phil or one of his staff members will bail her out this time.
Amyv
Aug 9, 2008 at 3:12 am
Navigator - Thank god. A voice of reason. Its late and I just read more blogs from those people. UNBELIEVEABLE. I can’t even respond to them. That is why I blog on here. People have sense. What is with all of this “conspiracy theory”? It is beyond ridiculous. And their was a comment that people take out injunctions over the littlest things. Lets see: She stabbed her ex-boyfriend with a pen, tryed to pay another boy $50.00 to break up her ex and his new girlfriend, pushed him up against the wall at school. But, the real kicker was threatening to have him jumped by boys after school. (sounds like another case she is involved in). Also, tryed to run him(he also had a passenger in the car) off the road and guess who was in the car with her. None other than Brittini Hardcastle. Remember 911 call when the mother of the girlfriend who picked her up after the beating said these girls had tryed to run her daughter off of the road. But, lets all blame the sheriff. Its all a big conspiracy. The boy must have something gain from this. (What are some people thinking). If B.H. was in the car with her, I think she should also be charged additionally with assault with a deadly weapon. Get these monsters off of the streets before they kill somebody. And for anyone who wants to stick up for them. Bail them out, take them home and let them hang around your teenager. See how sorry you feel for them then. This needs to go to trial very quickly. They are a complete danger to society. Hate to make a joke here but didn’t you ever see the movie children of the corn? That is what some people make this town sound like. Adults wanting little monsters to run the town. If I were Victoria the news of Mercades arrest would give me great satisfaction. Sorry if that sounds hateful but, enough is enough. Garland - I think Dr. Phil learned his lesson last time. And this time the bail is a lot more.
LawAndOrder
Aug 9, 2008 at 4:15 am
A source out of Lakeland on the Topix forum (which lists people’s location based on IP address) says that Victoria Lindsay will be a state witness in the new case against Mercades Nichols.
Scott
Aug 9, 2008 at 8:11 am
Amy, I wonder if Mercades re-arrest really gives Tori any satisfacton let alone great satisfaction. If Tori still has physical problems to deal with from the assault then she’s probably sad and nothing could heal her except getting her health back to normal. But no one outside of her family and close friends knows how Tori is doing.
Navigator
Aug 9, 2008 at 11:01 am
Amyv… Mercedes sounds more like the making of a mob boss to me. She tries to hire someone to make the situation go her way - to break up the couple - and then was going to have someone jump the ex boyfriend as well. Running people off the road and stabbing with a pencil…..dang…Sounds like the “Godfather” in the teenage years…lol. What kind of hold does this girl have on this “gang” she hangs with.
gompertz
Aug 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Just got back from the Pennsylvania woods, so peaceful there, and saw this new posting. So Mercades was on probation and facing more legal troubles already. Could it be that is why she refrained from physically attacking Victoria? Did she make a rational calculation that such an act would add to her legal difficulties? Just wondering. Amyv, just checked some of the comments from the Ledger, and yes,there are some people who side with the perpetrators. But we have to expect that. Maybe they are friends or relatives of the perpetrator, or maybe fans of Bill Maher, who told us that the victim in this case “probably had it coming.” What can you expect from liberal elitists? Every person of good will shpuld feel anger. Anger based on moral outrage is good, but only if it is focused on positive action, or else it becomes self-destructive. Just read Greg’s entries on the other posting, and there he introduces practical ideas for implementing science-based solutions. For now I can only wonder what the percentages are, pro and con, down in Polk County. Very few will be neutral I think. For my next trip next month, maybe I will skip the woods and head down to Florida and conduct an informal poll. Possibly by then they will have set a trial date, but I’m not holding my breath.
Amyv
Aug 9, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Scott - Very true. We do not know how the victim is doing physically. The family is very wisely holding that close to the vest until trial. However, I have read she is doing much better physicaly. I hope this is true. I guess what I should have said was that this might bring further relief from Tori emotionally. Her mother mentioned she kept saying, “why me, what did I do that was so bad”? Maybe, she will see that this is a way of life for these girls. She didn’t do anything “so bad”. They apparently have bullied quite a few people. Poor Victoria was just the one who got the full brunt of their bullying. And, might be the one to bring them down. Gompertz -The only postive action necessary for this has been done. This girl is back in jail and away from society. As for some of the people in the town sticking up for these girls, it seems to be more about bashing the sheriff. I think they care more about making the sheriff and police department look dangerous then they care about the safety of the children in their town. I do not give Mercades Nichols the benefit of having enough ability to think it through and not hit the girl. Navigator seems to have the right idea. This girl seems to like to have others do her dirty work. Trying to get others to beat up her ex-boyfriend. Letting everyone else hit Victoria. I think as I have stated before this girl is a coward. I think she is scared if she confronted these people one on one, or without the use of a car, she might get hurt.
Scott
Aug 9, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Amy, I have not read that Tori is doing much better physicaly. But I hope that’s the case.
As for the family and friends of those arrested blaming the sheriff or Tori for all of this trouble their loved ones are in they need to look in the mirror and figure out how they messed up and didn’t recognize that these kids had major issues to deal with. The assault on Tori was so avoidable. And all it would have taken was some common sense to intervene.
gompertz
Aug 9, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Amyv, the arrest was a positive step, but only a step. As for attributing the power of rational judgment to Mercades, I was not trying to pay her a compliment, but only saying what I think is obvious, that even the most depraved people are capable of modifying their behavior when faced with the threat of punishment.
Amyv
Aug 9, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Scott - Mercades mother had commented on her restraining order after Toris beating. Surprise, it was also the boys fault. He kept talking to her and that was also a violation of the order. He was violent and blah, blah, blah. So that being said she already blamed this victim as well before the recent arrest. And so are “other people” not doubt family members or friends. But, the good thing is they can blame others as much as they want. It won’t matter when she has her days in court. So: Victoria fault, societys faulty, parents fault, sheriffs fault, the entire police departments fault and the latest ex-boyfriends fault. It looks like a lot of people don’t have enough common sense in this case. Gompertz -Mercades was already threatened with punishment. Keep yourself out of trouble and no further action will be taken on the boyfriend incident. Her behavior did not change. It rose to a whole new level and poor Victoria paid the prize. So the threat of punishment did not seem to matter much to her. I don’t think she is the sharpest tool in the shed anyway. Some people can not be rehabilitated. Scott - since Brittini Hardcastle was in the car with her when she tryed to run this boy over, Can she be charged with assault with a deadly weapon? That seems to be a hobby of theirs.
Scott
Aug 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Amy, they are playing the blame game. But in the end that won’t pay fof for them. There will be no high paying high profile television interviews for Mercades or the other girls. That better be reserved for Tori who at some point needs to go public.
Amyv
Aug 9, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Wow - just read the official police reports for this prior case. Some of it was kind of hard to read. This girl paid another boy to beat up her ex and his girlfriend. She text messaged her ex and threatened to beat up his girlfriend. She pushed the new girlfriend at school into the ex throwing him into a locker and knocking the breath out of him. She had plans to beat up the girlfriend but her and Brittini Hardcastle (fat miss pink pants) decided the location was not a good one. So not only was she threatening him she was also threatning his girlfriend. He went to school officials twice and no action was taken. This is a HUGE problem at our schools. It is to bad charges where not also filed against Brittini. These girls need to go to jail for a long time. Some of these things happened only 3 days before they beat the crap out of Victoria. They were just itching to fight somebody. Is their anyway this can be brought up in court at Brittinis trial to? Showing her character. I hope so. No more pity for these little monsters. If they get beat up in jail, they deserve it. They like to fight so much.
Scott
Aug 10, 2008 at 9:59 am
Amy, the difference is Mercades and Brittni like to fight against weaklings. In jail they won’t be fighting weaklings they will be fighting against women who can fight back.
And what the hell was Tori thinking choosing live with Mercades and all her problems instead of living at home? For an allegedly smart girl that was a stupid decision for Tori to make.
Amyv
Aug 10, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Scott - Yes, I agree that Tori should have had a better class of friends. But, I am sure that she never expected Mercades to turn on her that way. From what I can tell she didn’t hang around any of the other girls. The one good thing that has come out of this is Tori is home where she needs to be. You are right they are going to be way out of their league when they go to jail. Those girls in their don’t play. They will be the weaklings. Not that I consider Tori and Mercades ex-boyfriend weaklings. Just out numbered. I will say it again. I think these girls were sitting on ready to fight anybody at this point. I think Tori was just the easiest target. For some reason she trusted Mercades. That was the wrong decision. But, isn’t that what we call Monday morning quarterbacking? When will these girls go to trial already?
Scott
Aug 10, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Oh Amy monday morming quarterbacking right as the NFL pre-season just got underway? ;) So true about Tori and Jacob Johns not being weaklings. It took Tori great strength to keep her composure and not fight back. If Tori fought back who know what they would have done to her. And Johns had to put up with threats and violence from Mercades after they dated for 2 years and then broke up. I agree with you that the girls were just itching to beat up someone and Tori was an easy target and the girls had issues with her. And they had Kayla’s mother’s video camera too. Lights camera action!
Mrs Garda
Aug 10, 2008 at 8:33 pm
you know? honestly? This may sound strange but the thing that upset me the MOST about that video?
Those little smiles on the girls faces. ALL of them. The smugness in their voices…they all knew what was going to happen. The only one confused and scared was the one that got beat up. Everyone else showboated for the camera.
Amyv
Aug 10, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Yes, they were quite please with themselves and enjoying every minute. And I agree the noises they were making and comments to her were VERY disturbing. That is part of what makes this tape so sickening. I can’t imagine being on the jury and having to watch the whole thing. Everytime one of them tries to look sorry or innocent by crying, just play the jury the tape. How different they all act now. Wow they give a new meaning to mean girls. I beat they won’t be show boating for the jury. Scott - (preseason is when your team can lose and you can say well its only preseason lol.(:
M. Hutchence
Aug 11, 2008 at 11:59 am
wow! i’m trying to remain somewhat professional, but all i can say is that she is a real idiot, complete mess, and thank god she got apprehended.
She really needs to be out of society for decades.
possibly longer.
LawAndOrder
Aug 11, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Well, for the time being at least, she is in the Polk County jail. Looks like the Nichols family can’t make the $8,150 + asset surety bond to total $81,500 value.
The score card with the combined two cases is five felonies (including a level ten felony, highest level below capital murder), and five misdemeanors. If she’s convicted of all charges she will be going away for at least ten years.
M. Hutchence
Aug 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm
good!
Any word on how the trial will come about? or if there will even be one?
LawAndOrder
Aug 11, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Regarding the trial for the Victoria Lindsay case.. there is a pretrial hearing scheduled for August 26th.
As for this case involving the ex-boyfriend, there’s an arraignment scheduled for August 26th as well, 15 minutes before the pretrial for the Victoria case begins.
Mercades will not have to appear for either the pretrial or the arraignment. She can enter a plea by writing for the arraignment, and defendants are not required to appear for pretrial.
No actual trial date has been set yet for either case.
Amyv
Aug 11, 2008 at 9:22 pm
It is a good thing they can not come up with the bail. She needs to stay in jail. LawAndOrder - please explain to me what happens at a pretrial? It has been been five months since the beating. I thought pretrial was when you entered a plea? With all of their evidence against these girls why is this taking so long. They need to at least get Brittini Hardcastle away from society. She is also a very huge threat to society. Also, which one of the charges is a level ten felony? If someone was arrested 10 years ago can you go to a site without paying and get the same detailed information as you can in this case? Or will it also show the fact behind the charges?
LawAndOrder
Aug 11, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Usually one of two things occurs: A trial date is set, or another pretrial hearing is scheduled. Other than that, procedural things like the judge inquiring how the discovery process is progressing, etc. I am guessing the defense lawyers will motion for continuance again, and ANOTHER pretrial hearing will be set for September or October.
Arraignment is where you enter the plea. That was held several months ago. They all entered not guilty pleas.
Kidnapping is the level ten felony.
The Polk County court website has felony records dating back to 1953 — all accessible for free. Other counties vary on disclosure policies.
Scott
Aug 11, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Amy, that’s so true about preseason football.
Mercades is in deep trouble now. Now I hope she gets the help she needs and serves the time in jail that she needs to.
Amyv
Aug 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Scott - I know these sounds hateful but, I wish they could get Brittini Hardcastle On something else also. She seems to be the meanest one of the group. Although, maybe with her charges from just this case she in deep enough trouble already. She needs to go away for a long time. Law and Order - If these girls are riding around town trying to run people off of the road, isn’t that assault with a deadly weapon.I am guessing that is one of the charges Mercades is facing? I find law fascinating. I wish I would have persued that field when I was in college. Sorry if my questions sound uneducated. One more please. When you are charged with domestic violence, did you have to physicaly lay a hand on the victim. A guy I work with said he got mad at his girlfriend and kicked down the front door. He was charged with domestic violence. I think his story is a little fishy. Off of subject I know. Just was curious.
LawAndOrder
Aug 12, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Yes, Mercades actually has two counts of assault with a deadly weapon. One of those is for using her vehicle as a deadly weapon, and the second is for using a pen as a deadly weapon.
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Greg
Aug 14, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Enough is enough, F*ck that bitch, give her prison time.
Seriously if she’s going to stalk people, put her in prison where she belongs. I hope she gets at least a decade, and she probably deserves even more time.
We need to stop rewarding and enabling stalkers and violent criminals.
Amyv
Aug 14, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Greg - I totally agree. This girl has got some major problems. And she is a complete threat to society. I also, think Brittini Hardcastle should go down hard. It seems they hang together and this behavior is normal for them. As for the rest of the girls, we will see what comes out at the trial.
It seems like they get a kick out of driving around town and trying bully and run people off the road. Don’t mean to bring physical aspects in her but their time could have been better served at a gym. Working off their extra weight and getting rid of all that energy in a positive way. I say hurry up with the trial. But, don’t stop their. Bullies have got to start facing some consequences. Enough is enough. The school should be investigated for its policies since this boy when to them to report her bullying and they did nothing. Unfortunately, this is the norm in public school, not the exception. Back to zero tolerance for bullying. It is sad when people have to home school their kids because of all of the violence they are faced with on daily basis. What is ths schoolboard going to do about this. Stop brushing things under the rug and start kicking these idiots out of school. Plus if it happened on school grounds call the police. I am sick of them babying these kinds of kids.
Scott
Aug 14, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Amy, I think Brittni and Mercades bullying days are over. But it’s a shame there is no beginning in sight for the trial. And that’s just what the defense lawyers want. It’s up the Polk County and he prosecution to wait however long it takes for the trail to take place and for Tori to receive justice.
Amyv
Aug 14, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Scott - I don’t understand why they let cases like these with so much evidence drag on for so long. Aren’t both of these girls 17? I think it might be to their benefit to get it over with before they turn 18. Although, that might not make any difference in the end. I sure hope their bullying days are over. At least Mercades isn’t able to bully because she is in jail. Since I don’t think they are at all sorry for what they did, I can’t imagine Brittini Hardcastle has learned her lesson yet.
Scott
Aug 16, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Amy, Mercades is out of jail. Someone posted bond for her. Yes Brittni and Mercades are 17 and will be tried as adults.
You make a good point about the assault is on video so what kind of evidence is there to gather? The defense is just wasting time at this point. Tori should file civil suits against the Infamous 8 and their parents even before the trial starts. Maybe that would wake the defense up and get the trail moving. .
Mrs. Garda
Aug 16, 2008 at 6:18 pm
The job of Mercades’ lawyer is to either make the video out to be not as bad as it looks, or else to defame the poor victim to the jury, basically saying things about how she provoked it all off video, that sort of thing, if I’m right. One of our more lawyer minded patrons could probably tell me if I’m right or not.
Really though that video speaks for itself. There can’t be anyone who would believe that girl is the madonna…
Amyv
Aug 16, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Well I wonder who posted her bail? I take it this time she will be kept on house arrest. Good luck to the lawyers trying to make the tape not look bad. And if I was on the jury the worst thing they could do is attack the victims character. If you can get jurors to fall for that one, I would be shocked. I don’t care if she threatened them every day. I don’t think she had problems with all of them. If she threatened some of them, one on one discussions would have solved it. Not 6 on1. Not videotaping, and not kidnapping. Their is just no way to make these girls look like anything but the scum they arey. I agree, if I were Victoria’s parents I would have already filed civil suits. But, I am sure they are holding back for a good reason. That will follow the trial. I guess the defense has to try to come up with something. Although, they have a tough case in front of them. An impossible case as far as I am concerned. Scott - how did you find out she got bailed out of jail?
Amyv
Aug 16, 2008 at 10:54 pm
innocent until proven guilty. Unless of course you were stupid enough to tape your crime.
Mrs. Garda
Aug 16, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Oh I agree with you entirely. I was just trying to answer the question ^_^
Amyv
Aug 17, 2008 at 1:23 am
It is ridiculous how long they take to bring criminals to justice.
Electronica
Aug 17, 2008 at 1:07 pm
amyv i read it can take a year. its a big crime thats why. they could get life. when its murder it can take two three years. kidnapping can be like a year or more.
Electronica
Aug 17, 2008 at 1:22 pm
and amyv i heard she and her b/f were going to have a baby but she lost it and he left her and got himself another g/f. it doesnt make it ok what she did. if she did it. i dont trust the cops much. so idk. im just saying her heart must have been broken.
Amyv
Aug 17, 2008 at 7:40 pm
El - Yes I also heard that she was pregnant. I believe it was her mother that reported that one. As far as her boyriend leaving her after she lost the baby, I don’t know. It sounds like he had a whole lot of other reasons to leave her. Mainly because of her bullying. Unfortunately, many young girls get pregnant and then dumped. And yes it must be heart breaking. But you can’t go around trying to run people off the road. You can’t be pushing them around. And you can hire someone to beat them up (thats a big one). I am not saying that all cops are good. Just like everybody else in society, their are bad people and good ones. However, if someone was breaking into your house while you were at home you would call the cops right? They are also their to protect you. So saying you don’t trust all cops might not necessarily be true. However, in this case the cops had nothing to do with it. In my opinion they should have been brought in sooner. Believe me these girls will not get life. However, Mercades needs to do some hard time. So does Brittini Hardcastle. Good to see you back on.
Amyv
Aug 17, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Oh I forgot something also. Remember when their was a big rumor going around that Victoria was pregnant, after the fight, and was going out to night clubs and partying. I don’t think that ended up being true because she would be pretty far along by now. So unless I read it in a police report or see it on tape, I have to wonder if its true. How do we really know Mercades was even pregnant to begin with.
Electronica
Aug 17, 2008 at 10:31 pm
amyc i dont think merc hired anyone to beat him she payd a cousin of his g/f to leave him. its not right but its not the same. i know some older girls who would do the same if it could work but it doesnt i think the cousin was just playing with her.
idk why ppl always make up stuff about the girls its like they wantr them to be even more bad than they are.
Electronica
Aug 17, 2008 at 10:40 pm
and amyv i saw those rumors too long long ago but it was from ppl who hated tori and they said shes a slut and worse so i didnt trust them.
but with mercades it was her mom saying it i dont think moms would make up stuff like that they dont like it if their daughters have kids too young.
she also said he beat her too and thats why she lost the baby. idk about that. but i know ppl who hit each other sometimes but stay together it doesnt make sense to me but its true. anyway gn.
Amyv
Aug 18, 2008 at 11:04 am
Electronica - the information I got about her paying someone came straight from the police report. The exboyfriend stated that she paid another boy $40.00 to beat him and break up him and his girlfriend. So, unless the boyfriend was lying, those are the facts. And it wasn’t joke. The boy she gave the money to, didn’t say anything about him being a cousin, said he took her money but, had no intention on going through with what she wanted him to do. So this isn’t a rumor it is on an official police report. And, if the boyfriend lied, their are an awful lot of liars in this case. The police, the sheriff, the boyfriend, etc. My money would be beat on the girls are lying. As for Mercades mom, didn’t you notice she has a screw loss. She was the one that said all of that stuff about them beating on each other. Why would the boy risk looking like he was scared of a girl and go to school officials if he to was beating her? It doesn’t make sense. I go with what makes more sense. As for Mercades mom, I don’t believe a word she says. She is a big part of that girls problem. Also, on a news cast a couple of months ago, they spoke to the exboyfriends grandmother. She said Mercades was violent and she was scared of her. Unless she is lying to. That makes a whole bunch of liars. With the facts I have seen, I can count how many liars I believe are involved in this case. The original 8. I will find the sight with the original police affidavit for you so you can read it for yourself. and see what the facts are. Yes, I doubted Tori was pregnant from the first time I saw people blogging about it. No one is out to get these girls. They have done that all by themselves. To me they can’t look much worse than they did on the video.
gompertz
Aug 18, 2008 at 9:41 pm
On August 26, we will see if the presiding judge will allow the defense to get away with delaying tactics. I have some questions. Is it true that mercAdes got bailed out, and if so by whom? Also I saw an article that claimed Cara Murphy has been approached by Oprah. Any truth to that?
Amyv
Aug 19, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I am not sure who bailed Mercades out. I haven’t read anything about it. Didn’t see the article about Oprah either although, I would think they would want to hold off until after the trail for talk shows. Even though the charges were dropped against Cara.
gompertz
Aug 19, 2008 at 1:43 pm
The Oprah reference was from Tracing the motive youtube beating case, July (7). If true, pretty disturbing.
M. Hutchence
Aug 20, 2008 at 12:31 pm
i already can’t stand Oprah, if she gets involved in this in anyway i will completely hate her
Electronica
Aug 21, 2008 at 4:46 pm
amyv i read the police report and i was right she paid her cousin to break them up but didnt say he has to beat him up to get paid just break them up. and yes it was her cousin. why would she think her cousin would do it anyway? why did he take the money? its all strange.
and amyv if the boy didnt like merc why have a baby with her? idk boys who get beat up by their g/f and dont beat them too. the other way yes but not this way. so its all wierd.
and amyv he already had another g/f when he told on her in school.
oh and you didnt tell me about the boy killed i never found that story only the saratosa one.
Amyv
Aug 21, 2008 at 8:45 pm
El - Sorry I am horrible with cut and paste or I would show you the site to go for the official police report. If you can’t find it I will have someone help me to get you the correct site. According to official police report, Mercades Nichols via e-mail was speaking to a boy with the last name of Jones. Jones is the cousin of Mercades exboyfriends new girlfriend. He is not Mercades cousin. It plainly states she asked him to BEAT him up and break the couple up. He took her money and had no intention of doing what she asked. Then he told his cousin, the new girlfriend about what had happened. This goes to show Mercades isn’t high on the I.Q. list. If you want someone beaten up don’t go to their girlfriends cousin. Well at least the boy took $40.00 from her. If she is that dumb she deserves to pay. As far as Mercades was pregnant, where is the proof? We don’t know that was actually the fact. Her mother was the one who gave out all of that information. And she is not a reliable source in my eyes. She bad mouthed Victoria on national t.v., so why not make the exboyfriend, who is also a victim, look bad. I know the boyfriend had a new girlfriend. She was present during incidents with Mercades i.e. her and Brittini trying to run them off the road. What difference does that make about when he went to school officials? That is probably why her violence towards him got to the point where he needed help with her. Sorry, I have not felt well and have not had a chance to look up the other case. Please let me know if you can’t find the police report with the correct information, as I stated above is. I can get it for you their.
Electronica
Aug 21, 2008 at 10:47 pm
amyv i said i did read the police report and i did but i didnt read it like you. she said he should beat him up but she didnt pay him to beat him up just to get his cousin away from him. and yes he was the cousin of the new g/f thats what i meant. and cousins good to do it if he doesnt like the b/f shed listen to him maybe so its not that stupid but only if the cousins on your side but he wasnt on mercs side so she was stupid.
and he had another g/f between merc and this new new g/f. i was just saying thats why he told on merc they were not together anymore but before its wierd she beat him and he didnt beat her?
idk if the babys true or not but idk know anythings true i just go by what sounds like it could be true. maybe everyones lying and nothings true idk. gn.
Electronica
Aug 21, 2008 at 10:59 pm
oh and i meant merc was stupid but the cousin was playing with her no? if her heart was broken it was easy she didnt see clearly she didnt see shes being set up. i mean its not like she hired a hit man she hired a cousin its not the same. anyway get well. gn.
Amyv
Aug 22, 2008 at 12:46 am
El - You have to be very careful what you say in a conversation. She did tell him she wanted him to beat the boy up. She also said she wanted the boy to break them up. Then money exchanged hands. If this boy would have beaten up her boyfriend and the police got a hold of that e-mail, it could all be joined together. Very similar to hiring a hit man. Except she wanted the boy hurt not dead. It doesn’t matter if this boy had been her own brother, these are very serious actions. Very dangerous. She seems to have quite a few episodes of no thinking right. I don’t know what her relationship was like with her ex-boyfriend. If he was beating on her she should have filed charges. It sounds like maybe they were both beating on each other and she went way over the line. Anyway, it shows a pattern of a severe anger management problem with her. So, she will have to face a jury and they will have to see the evidence. She needs some serious psych. help. She can’t control her actions and playing bumper cars with people on the roadway is assault with a deadly weapon. Their are witnesses to those incidents. I can’t believe that all of these people are lying and the one caught on tape is telling the truth. However, she can defend herself in court. good luck on that one. thanks for your concern. minor cold or allergies from this hurricane weather. If you live in Fla. be safe. gn
Electronica
Aug 22, 2008 at 8:42 am
amyv i agree when girls say a boy should geta beating he can get beaten. but lots of girls say stuff like that. me too sometimes if im not thinking but i also say im not serious. ppl say someone should get shot too but dont mean it.
i dont think merc wanted him dead or hurt she still loved him she wanted him back. she didnt care about him getting beat i think she just cared about him breaking up with his g/f. that’s why its importtant it was a cousin she paid, it was like an inside job, the g/f would listen to her cousin if he was older i think.
and girls dont go to cops if they get beat a little cause cops can be trouble and its not cool. but they shouldnt stay with their boy. but if they both hit each other then they both need help and shouldnt be together but i think its like drugs maybe they cant help it.
anyway i dont think theyll help her in prison theyll just beat her up or keep her all alone and drive her crazy. i mean real real crazy. when she gets out she will just go kill everyone is what i think.
Electronica
Aug 22, 2008 at 8:52 am
oh and amyv im not from down there im safe. and i hope it will be ok down there too.
and i dnt drive so i dont know much about the car stuff but do you think merc now wanted her ex dead? she could die too. and you think britti didnt care if she dies too? she was there and another girl too. like iof you hit someone you can get killed too no?
if i was in the car and merc tried to hit someone id beat her up at the next stop so she knows its crazy. i mena it wouldnt be right to beat her up but i couldnt help it i think id be real mad.
Amyv
Aug 22, 2008 at 9:00 pm
El- I think we are through with the worst of the storm. It’s still raining alot though.
I know when a boy breaks your heart and you want him back you can say some stupid things. However, threatening to have a group of boys beat him up after school, hiring someone to break him and his girlfriend up and paying the boy is above board. As for the boy in the family, he is not related to Mercades. That wound’t matter in court. Might even make matters worse if he were. Also, stapping him with a pen is trying to hurt him. As far as trying to run someone off the road, your intention is not to go off the road with them. This is very serious. Many cases of road rage involve one person trying to run another off the road. They don’t consider the consequences that they to can get hurt. Since, these girls have done this more than once, it seems to be a thrill for them. They are seriously putting people in danger. They seem to feel they are to tough to get hurt. And the fact that Brittini and her were once again putting someone in danger shows they are trouble.
As for stopping at the next stop sign and beatin Mercades, I am sure Brittini would have jumped right in on that. Probably the other person in the car as well. This just shows people who knew them well were scared of them. I can’t stand bullies and that is what these girls obviously are. Who knows who else they were bullying. They need to be punished for all the torment they have put other people through.
I do have a temper like everyone else. However, sometimes you have to keep it in check to keep yourself out of major trouble. I also do understand sometimes you have to defend yourself. That is a different story. But, getting these bullies off of the street may put a stop to so many people having to make that decision. Yes if these girl would have tryed to run me off the road, I would have wanted to beat her to. But, that would have caused a whole lot more trouble in this situation. These girls travel in a pack. They don’t know what one on one means. Also, I find it funny that Mercades was scared of Brittini, doesn’t sound like that to me. Her mom was the one that issued that statement. That would be a really hard one to prove. Since they were busy all over town together. You have sense. You see consequences. These girls obviously did not.
Scott
Aug 22, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Amy, I think I read it online that Mercades was bailed out of jail. But not by Dr. Phil this time. ;)
I don’t buy it when any of the girls say they were scared of Brittni their friend. No way.
And I agree those girls were bullies perhaps with the exception of Kayla who is seems to be too petite to bully anyone.
Amyv
Aug 22, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Scott - I think Dr. phil learned his lesson last time. I agree with you almost 100%. These girls were not scared of Brittini. Certainly not Mercades who seems to have hung out with her quite a bit. As for Kayla she bullies with others to help defend her. I don’t believe for one second she was scared of any of these girls. But, I agree one on one with someone for Kayla might have been a big disadvantage. However, her using her size at this point doesn’t wash. Its no defense. I have seen some people who were small take down people bigger than them. But, Kayla would have been out of her league with these girls. Tori was out sized. With the exception of Kayla Tori was the smallest girl there. Kayla might be small but she is a bully. She hit this girl. She egged it on. She verbally abuse the hell out of Tori when Brittini was beating her. No doubt she would get her rear end kick by someone bigger. But, to cowardly to stand alone.
gompertz
Aug 23, 2008 at 3:45 pm
I just can’t get past this thought. If Merc was bailed out (presumably by an anonymous benefactor} why isn’t it news? Neither the Tampa, Orlando, or Lakeland papers, or Wikio have commented on it.
Amyv
Aug 23, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Gompertz - I haven’t seen anything on the news about it either. However, they have had their hands full with the tropical storm. It seems like they have lost interest in this case. The new hot topic of course is about that poor child missing. I think when these girls go to court we will hear something then. I do wonder though how they came up with someone to bail her out. The first time the bail was alot lower and they had trouble with that. Until Dr. Phil stepped in.
Electronica
Aug 24, 2008 at 10:44 am
amyv i know the boy is not related to merc hes related to the new new g/f and thats why merc had to think he doesnt like the boy and could talk his cousin out of being his g/f. thats what i meant by an inside job. its not that strange. only that she paid him. but if she was pretty and popular she wouldnt think she has to pay.
anyway i think theyll beat her up in prison and drive her real real crazy and when she gets out shes going to kill people.
Amyv
Aug 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Electronica - I don’t think her looks have much to do with it. The part about her paying him isn’t really strange. It just turns it into a much more serious offense. she was determined by any means to get her way. As for her going to jail and coming out worse, that is what all criminals face. She has broken the law several times. so she has to pay for her crimes. If she keeps heading down the path she is on, someone may be killed. Even if she accidentaly kills them running them off the road. She has no regard for other peoples safety or well being. She intentionaly inflicts pain on people. She choose to take these actions and know she must pay the price. It is a shame the way the prison system is run. But, people in prison are their for a reason. They broke the law. And in her case most of it has to do with threatening or causing actual harm to others. So she will have to face some tough people in prison. Just as her victims have had to face her.
Scott
Aug 24, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Amy, I guess you aren’t cutting baby face Kayla any slack. ;) Kayla really let Tori have it verbaly in the video. But she reportedy only hit Tori a couple of times then stopped because she didn’t like hitting Tori who had already been viciously pummeled. I still think Kayla will get off with the lightest punishment of all the 5 girls in this case who have charges against them.
The assault on Victoria Lindsay case needs to pick up speed and fast otherwise it could fade away into being a back page story.
Amyv
Aug 25, 2008 at 2:02 am
Scott - No, I don’t cut any of these girls slack. A baby face can be very deceiving. I do know she hit Victoria but, haven’t heard anywhere she stopped because she had already been beaten. If that came from her, I don’t believe it. But, emotionally she didn’t let up on Victoria one bit. And that was when Brittini was really pummeling her. So, no sympathy from me. The mental abuse in this case was just as bad as the physical. Maybe even worse. You are probably right she will the lightest sentence. We all know Brittini is going to take the worst punishment as well she should. April Copper was almost as bad. Except she has the fact she was only 14 on her side.
I hope once the trial starts they pick back up with the publicity. But, remember the jury will have to watch this tape. That will refresh their memories real fast. I think it is ridiculous these girls have not gone to court yet.
Electronica
Aug 25, 2008 at 7:54 pm
amyv i dont think its right not to care what happens in prison to merc. if you send her there then your responsible. and if you dont care what happens to her then how are you any better than her?
and lots of ppl break laws and dont get in trouble. cops too. and most kids too. doesnt mean all should go to prison and get beat up.
and if she goes crazy in prison and comes out and kills someone than what about the person who gets killed?
i think she needs help not prison. like go to some nice juvie where they do lots of stuff so she forgets about the boy and her heart heals. and maybe exercise a lot so shes not so fat and finds another boy. and maybe some pills from ppl like mr. hutch. but not too many.
Amyv
Aug 25, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Electronica - Mercades shows very strong tendancies towards violence. She shows a total disregard for inflicting pain and suffering on others. This is not just a case of a heart broken girl. That had nothing to do with the Victoria case. So why was she involved with that? Her actions are what is getting her in to serious trouble. Not me or anyone else who thinks she deserved to be punished. I don’t know much about juve. But do you think time in their will not harden her? She can not just go around breaking laws and terrorizing people with no consequences. That type of behavior can lead to murder as well. I don’t know what kind of psychological problems she has. One I would guess would be anti-social. Will medication help her? That is for a doctor to decide. But, letting her carry on with this behavior is not an option.
Their are a lot of people who get their hearts broken. Their are alot of people who are over weight.These are not excuses for her behavior. Even the most beautiful people in Hollywood get cheated on and dumped. So looking better and having another boyfriend are not going to fix some deep rooted problems with this girl. I have no idea what her punishment will be. That will be up to the jury.
A lot of the reason we have so much crime is because people are not punished. So that leads them to believe it is o.k. and they continue with bad behaviors. That is not a good defense for either.
Why is it o.k. for her and her friends to beat people but, we should be so concerned with them getting beat up? Don’t get mad. I don’t wish getting beat up on anyone. But, it is their violent behavior that has put them into this situation.
I am assuming from what you say about the police, their is a personal reason why you don’t trust them. Yes their are crocked cops. But their are a lot of good ones to who truely want to help people.
Electronica
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:49 am
amyv i just think if we dont care what happens to her we are no better than merc.
like merc was told by the other girls that tori was saying shell beat them up even to kayla whose younger and smaller. and for telling on her parents who called cops on her drinking beer. and she smokes too not sure its against the law but should be i think a little bit of beer is ok but even one cigarette can get you to smoke the whole pack soon ive seen that happen.
so anyway to merc tori was like a criminal i mean threats are against the law and kayla was like a witness who told the truth and now she was told shell get beat. and tori took stuff too merc said.
but merc tried real hard to get tori to leave and she did warn her. but when tori didnt listen merc gave up and then didnt stop the beating. well i think it was merc who was yelling at britti to let tori run away but anyway she didnt manage to stop it. she never hit her but she gave up.
so what i wrote is like mercs story the way she sees it. but my point is shes wrong for not stopping it. and now if a judge sends her to prison and doesnt care if she gets beat and if she just gets worse then the judge is no better than merc was when tori was beat up. you know what i mean? maybe tori broke the law but she didnt deserve to get beat. and maybe merc didnt hit her and didnt help to get her beat but she shuld have cared more about what is happening to tori. and we shouldnt be like merc was. we should be better.
anyway thats what i think.
Electronica
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:09 am
oh and i read they moved the hearing to october. so no trial for a long time.
im not going to be posting much ive got school soon. and i guess nothings going to happen for a long time. but ill check from time to time. anyway bye for now.
Amyv
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Electronic - I don’t believe that what is going on in prisons. I think they need more guards and more control over the prisoners. Beating each other up in jail shows a system that is broken down and needs to be fixed.
As for Mercades, I don’t believe she ever said let her go. According to Victoria, Mercades blocked her at the door way also to prevent her from getting out. I did not see Mercades lifting a finger to help. She looked like she was enjoying the show. If you see her sitting on the couch when Brittini starts in on Victoria she looks like she has a smirk on her face.
All of these girls,5 of them, were scared of Brittini. That defense doesn’t fit with what is going on in the video. I think if they all said enough is enough then Brittini would have seen she was out numbered. But Mercades was good friends with Brittini. Well I don’t know what good friend means to mercades. Victoria was supposed to be a good friend and look what she did to her. Brittini was one of her best friends and she turned on her. So, I would not like to be considered a friend by this girl.
Victoria may well have done things you said above. She may have threatened to beat a couple of these girls up. However, their is no justification for what these girls did. If everyone who made a threat had this happen to them, things would be way out of control. Plus, it sounds like the victim is being blamed. I don’t care who she threatened. I don’t care if she smokes. And one beer can lead to a case. Nothing she did justifies what these girls did.
These girls act like Brittini had total control over them. What were they hanging around her for then? If I was scared of somebody I would stay away from them.
Mercades made bad choices. What do you think her punishment should be? She is violent as is seen by this and the ex-boyfriend charges. So how do we help violent people in jail. I don’t know.
I have said it before. I do not wish getting beat up on anybody. If these girls would have had one ounce of sympathy they may not be in this mess. Even if I was scared to death of Brittini, I could not have sat their and watched what was going on with her. I would have made me physicaly sick. They ALL actively participated in some way. Whether it be beating, filming, mentaly torturing or holding her captive. I can not find much sympathy or understanding for people like this. I don’t know if these girls can every be taught that. They should have known it before they got so out of hand.
What kind of terror do you think they put Victoria through? What kind of mental anguish, physical pain and fear? They didn’t care. She thought they were going to kill her. That should be the focus. I am tired of a society that cares more for the criminals then they do the victims.
I know I am a better person then these girls. Because, fear or not I could not have sat their and watched this vicious act. Especially on someone who thought I was their friend. It has not been proven that Victoria stoled anything from Mercades. Don’t forget Mercades started being real nice to her on the phone to get her to the house. She knew what was going to happen. Mercades lived their she could have just told everyone to go home. That is what I would have done. All I heard her saying on the video was “Don’t hit the shelf”. Wow that showed sympathy.
But, like I said before it is up to a jury. October will be here before you know it. They can decide with all the evidence provided to them what punishment fits the crime.
Good luck with school. GN
RJ
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:13 am
According to the Polk County Sheriff’s website which includes a mugshot and booking sheet on her, she was released on a surety bond 08/13 which means someone posted her bail with a bail bondsman. I’m guessing a family member probably put up their property on this one to get her out. It’s obvious to her family this girl can do no wrong and someone is going to have to be seriously injured or worse for her to be put away for a long time. She has no concept of what is right and wrong and could care less and her family is in effect re-enforcing this behavior. She is a ticking time-bomb.
RJ
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
The problems she will face going to a state facility for a period of time is that she has a big mouth which will quickly get her into trouble not only with staff but with other inmates. She will be put in her place quickly though.
Amyv
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:36 am
RJ - Mercades mom can not distinguish between right and wrong. So their is no chance of her learning from her. The grandmother was probably the one who had to put up her bond. I don’t think the mother has a dime to her name.
As for Mercades running her mouth in jail, I don’t think she will do that. She is a toughie around town but, one good look at the girls in prison and I think she will try real hard to keep to herself.
saxtongirl
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:25 am
Ok I just wanted to give some information out…I along with the rest of the world was horrified when I saw this video…just horrifed so I kepted getting updates on Victoria…After seeing her myspace she is doing just fine….I dont know anything about Mercades BUT Victoria was pregnant she had ultra sound pictures on her space. Her and her bf were going to get married Im not sure what happened with the baby she never came right out and said…but her bf dumped her and she moved right onto to someone else. She is out all the time partying all the time and Im not even sure if she lives at home. Her myspace is marked private now so you can only see her one comment about what she is doing but from what I can see all these girls need a stable home enviroment but unfortunately that is not the case. She seems to need constant attention from men and I feel sorry for her. I hope she is getting help mentally but I doubt it as she doesnt have anyone to point her in the right direction.
Amyv
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:44 am
Saxton girl - Kept checking throughout this ordeal on this myspace that supposedly belonged to Victoria. It said you had to be on her friends list to enter. Are you a friend? Her myspace has been private. Have not heard one word in the media about her being pregnant. And here we go again with she is out partying all of the time. How would you know that if you didn’t see her out. And, that would have to mean you are out partying all of the time.
Really doesn’t matter what she does. Actions of these girls inexcusable. What Victoria does not will not matter when this goes to trial. It will not help them get off for their terrible crimes.
I also hope as well she is living at home in a stable environment. And I hope she has some ‘true friends’to help her get through this ordeal.
As for her constantly needing attention from men, once again, you would have to be getting that information from somewhere. Perhaps one of her other ‘friends’. Anyway bashing the victim goes on deaf ears. And if will certainly not be good to bring up before a jury. Not a good defense at all for these girls. Wrong stradegy.
saxtongirl
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:02 am
Who is bashing? Im not! Like I said I feel sorry for her, I rather know that she is living in a safe enviroment! Her myspace wasnt private about 2 months ago…thats where I got my info. So no I didnt get it from her so called friends got it right from her. Im not sure why it wasnt in the media…I read it on her space…she even has a picture of her and her friends pointing at her with a comment that says “yeah Im the one who got beat up haha! She is a teenager and thats what they do in Flordia…go to the bars and get “crunk” as they call it…I dont care about that! I agree the actions of those stupid girls are unspeakable like I said before I was horrfied as I am a mom and couldnt imagine the pain. Im 41 yrs old and I know the signs of a insecue little girl wanting and needing attention. She doesnt know any better and I DO NOT look down on her for that I feel bad for her as she doesnt have someone or something to make her feel better about herself.
Amyv
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:52 am
saxtongirl - i also am a mother. I have a teenage daughter. I do not know if the myspace you saw was real or not. Their have many fake ones out their. I can’t imagine hers would be open to the public. Her family has kept very quiet. Not a word has been heard from her. I doubt very seriously that the page was authentic. It would be to these girls benefit for a myspace page like that to be public. I just don’t believe it was real.
I don’t think Florida is alone in teenage girls going out and getting drunk. That is across our country unfortunately.
Didn’t mean to sound defensive to you. On other websites they say all kind of things about Victoria that are completely not true. So please, take the myspace for what it is a fake. I can’t believe her attorney would let her make those comments. I think it is all made up to discredit her.
saxtongirl
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Amy…we are all concern about victoria and whether you want to believe it or not is up to you I can give you the address if you would like and you can check it out everyday if you would like. She is a teenager and she has a myspace, she is being a kid and thats want we all want for her. How did I know you would bring up the Fla isnt the only ones…haha I knew it as soon as I typed it that I should have included the country but I figured you would know where I was coming from…anyway I wish her only the best that life has to offer she has had it tough
Amyv
Aug 27, 2008 at 6:48 pm
saxtongirl - Sorry to have come down on you. This girl does deserve to have a myspace. I am still leary about whether it is authentic. Other ones have popped up in the past and have been proven to be bogus. The statement about ‘HaHa yes I am the girl who was beat up” bothers me. She has a very high powered attorney and I am sure she would advise strongly not to make such statements. Plus, this girl wants to forget this nightmare. So why play on it?
The problem I have with the page saying she is or was pregnant is, people were reporting on blogs she was pregnant when the fight occured.
They blogged that is the reason why these girls hit her in the face and not on her body. So, this is the second round of Victorias pregnant.
Please give me the info. so I can locate her myspace. I have tryed before and so have other bloggers and we can’t seem to find it. I just can’t imagine she would have it open to the public. Remember, Mercades had a false myspace page. They proved it did not belong to her. It did have pictures of her and looked authentic.
I too hope the best for Victoria. She will have to deal with this for along time and relive it in court. I can’t imagine her having to face these girls again.
Unfortunately, don’t know what state you are from. We have had a lot of bad things happening in Florida lately. It’s not really funny but when we turn on the news we all say I wonder where that happened? Florida. We have a rash of crimes going on down here. I love my state though and wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
I do get defensive when things are said about victims in a case. It seems like that happens so much anymore. Even murder victims. I know you don’t mean to bash her. The system is so geared towards criminals rights and not the rights of victims (i.e. Casey Anthony). Have a good day.
saxtongirl
Aug 28, 2008 at 7:21 am
I understand completely. I was angered by what happened to her, Im glad to see that she is enjoying life now as a reg girl and I dont want to even get into casey anthony…Its a sad story anyway you look at it. Anyway her space is not open to the public as it was a few months ago but here it is…www.myspace.com/305586258, Ill be watching for those dimwits when the trial finally comes around, I hope they all get to do some time but your right the system sometimes just doesnt get it right:( Have a great weekend…thanks for chatting!
RJ
Aug 28, 2008 at 11:57 pm
satongirl - That is NOT her real myspace page. Some moron is obviously cloning. This is her real page… http://www.myspace.com/312823289
RJ
Aug 28, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Sorry I got your name wrong I meant Saxtongirl.
RJ
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:53 am
Must have had my previous comments not added but here it goes again…… Saxtongirl that myspace is a clone page…. Here is her real page….. http://www.myspace.com/312823289
Amyv
Aug 29, 2008 at 7:34 am
RJ -That has been the original myspace since this whole incident started. Their ought to be something you can do about cloning someones my space. It is all done in a futual attempt to make this girl look bad.
It would never make sense for this girl to have a myspace page open to the public. I don’t believe she was ever pregnant. I don’t believe she would ever make a comment saying she is the girl that got beat up.
Her stepmother and father said this has done a lot of emotional damage to her. She does not want to be remembered for being the girl that got beat up. I am sure she has a lot of problems with these tapes of the beating being made public. I hope she still does not suffer from the nightmares she was having following this vicious attack.
Once again, I wish the trials would being. This poor girl deserves justice.
gompertz
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Amy-Some posts suggest it may be years before it goes to trial because of the serious nature of the charges. They also say the constant delays could actually help the prosecution. The victim and the defendants have had their lives put on hold. Wouldn’t it make sense for the defense to try for a plea deal and get it over with?
gompertz
Aug 29, 2008 at 2:12 pm
More to the point, has anyone been offered a plea deal yet?
Electronica
Aug 29, 2008 at 6:53 pm
sax is right toris got a new myspace shes not using the old one. its real shes been changing pics a lot and ive seen the private pics too long ago.
toris dating a lot but i dont think thats wrong.
some ppl say the baby was not with her bf so he dumped her and she decided not to have the baby.
some ppl say she was never pregnant she just made it up to get her bf to marry her or maybe just forfun.
ive seen the belly pictures it doesnt have to be hers she couldhave dl fromthe net you know.
Electronica
Aug 29, 2008 at 7:00 pm
oh and amyv i guess youllnever understand me.
i say that if tori broke the law a lot i dont think of her as a criminal and i care that she got beat up.
and i say even if some of the girls broke the law i still think theyr not real criminals and i care if they get beat up.
and some girls like cara and i think kayla and merc didnt even break the law they just didnt act right.
Amyv
Aug 29, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Electronica - You have just done what you are accusing others of doing. Making assumptions about Victoria, like you say people do about the victims. Their is no concrete evidence she was pregnant. That we know of. To assume maybe she made it up or it wasn’t her boyfriends it what you accuse others of doing to the victims.
We can go their with Mercades as well. Maybe she was never pregnant. Maybe her boyfriend was going to break up with her so she claimed to be pregnant to keep him. Maybe it wasn’t even his baby.
Cara did not break the law you are right. Moral laws yes criminal no. Mercades drove the car they forced Victoria into after the beating. She also blocked Victoria from leaving the house. She did break the law. Kayla hit Victoria so was an active participant in the beating. Doesn’t matter how many times she hit her or why. She did break the law. So two out of three did break criminal laws. As for Victoria she has not been arrested for anything so I don’t know if she has ever broken the law.
The good thing about disagreeing like we do is we do it in a healthy way. We don’t get nasty with each other, we just discuss our different points of view. That is a healthy way to handle differences.
Please believe me I do not wish for anyone else to get beaten. But, as I have told you before I do think they deserve legal punishment. If I had my way no one for any reason would ever hit another person again. But, in todays world that is just a dream. Also, don’t have access to Victorias web site since it has been private since after this case. So assuming some people have access I don’t.
As long as they have the tape, they can take all of the time they want. Yes memories fade but, the video will refresh the juries memory immediately.
Gompertz - I have not heard anything about any plea deals. I do believe they may have offered Cara one since she was set free and will testify.
I think they have enough evidence to where they have no reason to offer plea deals.
El - hope school is going well. Even if our opinions are different, I do believe we have the same core values. gn
Electronica
Aug 30, 2008 at 11:02 am
amyv you accuse me of stuff i dint do. it makes me sad.
i only reprted what ppl are saying not what im saying. and i gave two versions so why do you pick one and accuse me of saying its true? pls read again what i wrote. your not fair to me.
oh and school didnt start yet it will soon.
Garland
Aug 30, 2008 at 1:54 pm
If any of you believe that Victoria’s new profile is real, I got some tropical land to sell you. Why would Victoria go & create a new profile embarassing herself, when she’s trying to avoid all of this nonsense with the media? Notice that she hasn’t gone on any talk shows, or any of that matter to discuss that incident. Plus her lifestyle should be none of our business whatsoever.
gompertz
Aug 30, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Thank you, Garland, I agree totally. This young lady obviously does not seek publicity and wants to get on with her life. There are many points about these events that we can argue about, but as for Victoria herself,we need to respect her right to privacy.
gompertz
Aug 30, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Amy and Electronica both make good points about Mercades. I don’t know these people, so all I can do is think back to the 60’s when I was their age, and remember how young people behaved then. I don’t think the troubles with the BF are as serious as some think, taken by themselves. Powerful emotions lead young people to act very badly, but I see little evidence of any “slippery slope” that makes people inevitably go from bad to worse. But that’s just my experience, limited as it is. As for “bumper car” games, I remember girls from the local motorcycle clubs running each other off the road and wrecking their cars, all over some guy. Police didn’t get involved much, since they were just “trashy biker chicks” and of no consequence. Also, it would be considered dishonorable for guys to go to the authorities if their girl friends got violent, as long as they didn’t use a gun. But those were different times. You see, I can excuse all that, because Mercades’ sin is not violence, but treachery. She betrayed her close friend, and that must hurt far worse than the actual beating. I don’t know about the kidnapping and obstruction, I leave that to the courts. Her double-crossing cowardly behavior speaks for itself. And as for those “trashy biker chicks” I just mentioned? I knew some of them pretty well. They were violent and sleazy and you might be missing your wallet. But this I am sure of, from knowing them. Not one of them would have sat there and let a friend be beaten like that. They would have intervened forcefully, even if it cost them their life.
Amyv
Aug 30, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Electronic - Please accept my apology if you think I am being unfair to you. It is not you that I meant to point a finger at. I just was trying to show what all of the rumors flying around can mean. I was trying to make a point that she may never have been pregnant at all these are just rumors started.
We can’t even be sure if Mercades was pregnant. I still don’t think their are any sources, besides her mother, to back that up. So I am not picking one scenario from what you were saying and jumping on it. I am trying to look at the whole picture. I am trying just to stick with the facts in the case. Not so easy sometimes.
El - I have had five different teenagers living at my house at different times during the past three years. They are friends of my daughter’s and are from very dysfuctional families. It breaks my heart these kids don’t have any guidance. The main rule when they stay here is no fighting. ever. If it is in self defense, that would not be their fault. But, when I start hearing trash talking I sit them down and tell them that is not allowed under my roof. Don’t mean to get personal just wanted to let you know I am not clueless to what teenagers go through today. I hear them talk about all the fights at school. I hear them talking about all of the meetings to fight at the local park. I got a good education on just how much the violence has escalated. And that also breaks my heart.
Garland - Could not agree with you more. lol on the first line. She has been quiet. She has kept a low profile. She has never talked to the media, except that article in people’s magazine. It does not make sense she would want the whole world knowing even more of her business. Also, agree with you and Gump that her lifestyle is not anyones business. She deserves to go on with her life and put this behind her. It makes no sense what so ever for her to have a public myspace. And, my comment is if you believe that one I have some swamp land in Fla to sell you.
Gompertz - I have to disagree with you on bumper cars. This is a dangerous action and could kill someone. So I do feel that is a criminal offense. If you are charged in a road rage case trying to run someone off the road it is criminal. And, if it considered a “game” the stakes are too high. Sorry, that the police did not find these girls worthy enough to act on these actions. But, thank God times have changed a lot with that.
I did not grow up in the 60’s. My experience stems from the later 70’s and beginning 80’s. So their is a difference in the two generations. So much was going on in the 60’s it was like a whole different world. The 70’s seemed to be a more laid back time. My generation was by no means
perfect. Far from it. Actually, I think we were maybe the lazy in between teenagers lol.
So I do feel this was a crime. Whether it is a male or female you are trying to run off the road, makes no difference. That is what women fought for. Equal rights. So that is the way it should be. It does make you wonder though, because we still live in a macho society, just how ruthless this girl can be. I am sure it was not an easy decision to make for him to ask for help. But, he obviously needed it. She threatened to have a “group” or boys beat him up. This girls loves groups doesn’t she. She asked another boy to beat him up and to break up him and his new girlfriend. Money even exchanged hands on that one. She was a threat to his new girlfriend. So, yes her activies are criminal in both cases.
I do strongly agree with you that she is definitely guilty of treachery. That is what makes this case even sadder for the victim. One of your best friends turns on you. That has got to add a lot to her emotional pain and suffering. NEVER and I repeat NEVER would me or one of my friends not defend each other to the end. It is cowardly beyond words. I to knew some toughie girls in my neighborhood. And, even if they weren’t your best friends, they would have your back. I can not imagine how that must effect Victoria’s trust of people. You can hear her saying Mercades you are supposed to be my friend. It is truely heart breaking and I can’t emphasize enough how cowardly Mercades is. This also shows more of her lack of morals or any empathy for others. I think she is on a downward slope. Sorry long winded today.
gompertz
Aug 31, 2008 at 6:20 am
Amy - I didn’t mean to give the impression that I took the car incident lightly. I have encountered this kind of thing myself on the road and it can be quite traumatic. I do not condone violence in any form. If there were times when I accepted violence directed against myself, especially from young women, that was just how it was at that time and place and I do not recommend anyone today following my example. Today the police take road rage and bumper cars far more seriously, but I wonder how different things really are. I used the expression “”trashy biker chicks” simply to characterize the attitudes of people who consider themselves respectable. Never in these posts or anywhere have I refer to anyone as “trailer trash” or “white trash” though many people use these terms without seeing anything wrong with it. Stereotyping by class or race or where you live is of course wrong. Many good and decent people live in trailers, I think it goes without saying. What these people did was simply wrong, whether their families are rich or poor.
gompertz
Aug 31, 2008 at 6:52 am
I was making the point that people who were not considered respectable and indulged in low level crime still had a sense of honor, which seemed to be missing in Mercades. Now I really need to get to sleep.gn
Amyv
Aug 31, 2008 at 8:02 am
Gompertz - I agree the use of the word trailer trash should not be used. I myself have been guilty of that one. But, to me it was meant more about their low behavior, not economics.
Actually, I think if these girls came from alot of money, it would be in the news even more. They would considered spoiled rich kids who thought themselves above the law.
I don’t care if these girls have a penny or a milllion dollars. Their crimes are the same. As a matter of fact sometimes they use their economic status as an excuse for their behavior. I don’t mean in this case in particular.
You are right Mercades in lacking so many fundamental values. Honor is a foreign word to any of these girls. So is sympathy, civilized, empathy and many others. Their lack so many basic values.
That age old saying “who needs enemies when you have friends like this” seems to fit perfectly in this case. That is one of hardest things to get over is betrayal by best friend. In this case I even imagine the emotion toll that has taken on the victim. I don’t think anyone would be lining up to be one of Mercades best friends. Good luck to anyone who may be in the path of these storms. Hopefully none of you. off subject my prayers for people in New Orleans.
Electronica
Aug 31, 2008 at 8:35 am
garl you coudnt sell me a lightbulb from the brooklyn bridge if you tried. myspace doesnt mean you wanne be on tv, its just like having a cell phone is all. and she didnt do anything wrong on it if you dont like what she wrote or the pictures its not her problem.
and i knew about it long ago but didnt post about it. only now sax gave out the url here.
Electronica
Aug 31, 2008 at 8:45 am
amyv ok.
Amyv